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How long is Sean Payton's leash?
Posted on 8/22/16 at 10:06 am
Posted on 8/22/16 at 10:06 am
Looking at his 9 years coaching here it is basically this-
-high impact surprise first year to NFCCG
-2 years at 15-17
-a 4 year run averaging 12 wins, including the SB win
-2 years at 14-18
I don't think he could be gone in one year even if shitting in the bed 3-13. Another non contending non winning season would certainly warm his seat up for 2017.
In today's NFL, more than 3-4 consecutive non contending years is about it. I'm guessing a terrible 6 or less wins could make 2017 critical to his future. Another 7-9 or better prolly gives him 2 years slack.
If into the playoffs this year then his leash is prolly extended further again. Another SB and he can call his own shots as coach for life. Ideally, another big push for a SB with Brees and they might go out together on top.
I'm just considering how his long term legacy might play out. I think of Shanahan post Elway. Joe Gibbs in Washington kinda faded out with 30 wins in his last 4 years. Whaddya think?
Peruse his history HERE
-high impact surprise first year to NFCCG
-2 years at 15-17
-a 4 year run averaging 12 wins, including the SB win
-2 years at 14-18
I don't think he could be gone in one year even if shitting in the bed 3-13. Another non contending non winning season would certainly warm his seat up for 2017.
In today's NFL, more than 3-4 consecutive non contending years is about it. I'm guessing a terrible 6 or less wins could make 2017 critical to his future. Another 7-9 or better prolly gives him 2 years slack.
If into the playoffs this year then his leash is prolly extended further again. Another SB and he can call his own shots as coach for life. Ideally, another big push for a SB with Brees and they might go out together on top.
I'm just considering how his long term legacy might play out. I think of Shanahan post Elway. Joe Gibbs in Washington kinda faded out with 30 wins in his last 4 years. Whaddya think?
Peruse his history HERE
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 10:20 am to blueslover
I would think two 6 or under win seasons and he would be gone.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 10:22 am to blueslover
He has another sub-par year in him. If next year is another sub-par year as well I think everyone decides to go there separate ways.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 10:25 am to blueslover
I think it's shorter than most think. If it's REALLY bad this year, I could see it ending quickly
Posted on 8/22/16 at 10:33 am to blueslover
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-a 4 year run averaging 12 wins, including the SB win
man that was a fun run
I think the Drew situation has a lot to do with the length of Sean's leash. If we keep losing with Brees it will be looked at differently than losing with Grayson obviously.
This post was edited on 8/22/16 at 10:34 am
Posted on 8/22/16 at 10:33 am to blueslover
Think he's got this season and then next season is essentially playoffs or blow it up. There won't be any excuse next offseason not to address the guard situation and build more depth along the lines.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 10:35 am to blueslover
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a 4 year run averaging 12 wins, including the SB win
Thank you, Gregg Williams and the best oline in football
This post was edited on 8/22/16 at 10:37 am
Posted on 8/22/16 at 10:40 am to blueslover
I don't think he or Loomis is going anywhere until Benson passes.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 11:09 am to blueslover
Sean Payton's role in drafting, trading, FA signing, etc.
Does anyone know how much power he has here.
It would seem to me that he would have a lot, but I'm just speculating.
The guy can coach offense. He's proven that over the years. He is less adroit in hiring defensive coordinators. We all know that.
My big question is how much credit or blame should Payton get for the roster we've put together for the last 2-3 seasons?
Does anyone know how much power he has here.
It would seem to me that he would have a lot, but I'm just speculating.
The guy can coach offense. He's proven that over the years. He is less adroit in hiring defensive coordinators. We all know that.
My big question is how much credit or blame should Payton get for the roster we've put together for the last 2-3 seasons?
Posted on 8/22/16 at 11:30 am to blueslover
His job is ridiculously secure and I have no idea how. The personnel decisions have made the team an absolute mess. He is a great game day coach I think but his coaching hires/loyalty paired with his personnel misses should not have warranted his extension.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 11:40 am to blueslover
It would be up to Payton whether he stays or goes, because Benson isn't firing him
Posted on 8/22/16 at 12:30 pm to blueslover
Just a bit shorter than Loomis' noose
Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:37 pm to blueslover
If Jeff Fisher still has a head coaching job with the Rams, Sean Payton is so secure.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 3:12 pm to blueslover
Payton will decide on his own when it's time to walk away. He has the most safest job in the NFL
Posted on 8/22/16 at 4:07 pm to blueslover
The only person who needs to be fired from the front office is Mickey Loomis right now. Go find me another coach who will give you a top 5 offense every damn year, I'll wait. If the Saints could ever find a defensive coordinator worth a damn and draft some defensive players worth a damn, this team would be a dynasty and Payton would have a statue.
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