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re: Making a Murderer: Brendan Dassey Conviction Overturned

Posted on 8/18/16 at 7:51 pm to
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9849 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 7:51 pm to
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Yes, yes they do.


Look up Wisconsin state law. The prosecution does not have to give an account of the crime (Avery's lawyers have explained this many times in interviews). Only that the defendant was involved and responsible. This is carried on further by the destruction of her remains and the tampering of evidence. This lessens the prosecutions obligation, as the murderer shouldn't be rewarded for trying to hide the crime. Circumstantial evidence carries a much stronger weight and can be used for conviction (look up murder conviction without a body).

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A confession is not sufficient for a conviction, especially a confession that was coerced.


I do not feel that it was coerced. Police interviews are supposed to be hard and probing. They are designed to force people to admit what they don't want to. But throw them out, if you want. He admitted it to other family members and to his mother (when he didn't know he was being recorded). He is Avery's alibi, they were with each other pretty much the whole night. If Avery is guilty, then Dassey was involved. There is no way around that.

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It kinda does. I have no idea why you're so dug in and committed to what you think happened. No chance he's innocent? Very few things in life are ever 100% or 0%.


I'm a realist. I have read so many threads and watched hours of tape on this case. They are guilty. Neither one has done anything to prove they are innocent. They have lied and changed their stories constantly, they have impeded and stone walled the investigation, neither has openly denied involvement, neither has taken a polygraph. Their defense is silence and that is really it. There is just no other version of this crime, where neither one is involved, that makes any sense and I have heard dozens. I had doubts at first, but I kept going till I made up my mind. Now I have no doubt..
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35728 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 7:58 pm to
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They are guilty. Neither one has done anything to prove they are innocent. They have lied and changed their stories constantly, they have impeded and stone walled the investigation, neither has openly denied involvement, neither has taken a polygraph. Their defense is silence and that is really it. There is just no other version of this crime, where neither one is involved, that makes any sense and I have heard dozens. I had doubts at first, but I kept going till I made up my mind. Now I have no doubt..


This is like movie-land reasoning. Since when do defendants have to prove their innocence?

What country are you from?

I love when people still say, "he got off on a technicality" - and that "technicality" is the 4th Amendment to the Constitution.
This post was edited on 8/18/16 at 8:01 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73363 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 10:14 pm to
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I do not feel


That's not how it works.

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Neither one has done anything to prove they are innocent.


That's also not how it works.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Member since Jun 2004
86595 posts
Posted on 8/19/16 at 10:06 am to
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They are guilty. Neither one has done anything to prove they are innocent.


I believe that in America, you are innocent until proven guilty. And in dassey's case, I haven't seen anything to "prove beyond reasonable doubt" that he is guilty.
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