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Will there ever be a greater pitcher than Nolan Ryan in the modern era?
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:37 am
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:37 am
Watched the documentary 'Fastball' on Netflix yesterday and didn't realize just how dominant Nolan really was.
8x All Star
11x K leader
7x No-hitters
Career ERA of 3.19
Career K's: 5,714
Played for 27-seasons and his last pitch at I believe age 46 was a 98-mph FB. He mentions in the documentary that he averaged around 150-170 pitches a game and even pitched all 14 innings in a game against Boston where he pitched more than 230 pitches.
8x All Star
11x K leader
7x No-hitters
Career ERA of 3.19
Career K's: 5,714
Played for 27-seasons and his last pitch at I believe age 46 was a 98-mph FB. He mentions in the documentary that he averaged around 150-170 pitches a game and even pitched all 14 innings in a game against Boston where he pitched more than 230 pitches.
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 10:41 am
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:40 am to McCaigBro69
are you implying that nolan ryan is the greatest pitcher of all time?
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:43 am to McCaigBro69
I thought of five better than him in less than ten seconds.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:43 am to McCaigBro69
Out of everything in his long career including the no-hitters, Nolan's numbers in the 1970's are remarkable.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:43 am to McCaigBro69
There have been a bunch already. One of the most overrated of all time. Walk machine.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:44 am to McCaigBro69
There have been several already, there will be others.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:46 am to McCaigBro69
What is Pedro Martinez, chopped liver?
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:47 am to McCaigBro69
Greg Maddux
Roger Clemens
Pedro Martinez
Randy Johnson
Nolan Ryan is the most overrated pitcher of all time.
Roger Clemens
Pedro Martinez
Randy Johnson
Nolan Ryan is the most overrated pitcher of all time.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:54 am to McCaigBro69
fun fact:
nolan ryan never won a cy young.
nolan ryan never won a cy young.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:54 am to McCaigBro69
quote:
Will there ever be a greater pitcher than Nolan Ryan in the modern era
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:59 am to McCaigBro69
Without reading anything but the thread title:
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:59 am to McCaigBro69
This thread is a non starter since Nolan Ryan isn't the best pitcher of the modern era to begin with
Posted on 7/20/16 at 11:42 am to McCaigBro69
Forget the modern era Nolan Ryan wasn't even they best pitcher in his own era.
Tom Seaver & Steve Carlton >>>> Nolan Ryan.
Tom Seaver & Steve Carlton >>>> Nolan Ryan.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 11:49 am to McCaigBro69
Ha. Ryan walked waaaaaay too many people. Pedro was better by a decent margin.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 11:53 am to McCaigBro69
Nolan Ryan was great but there are multiple pitchers that are better. Today his fastball wouldnt be something as special as it was back then.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 4:10 pm to McCaigBro69
Greg Maddux
Roger Clemens
Pedro Martinez
Randy Johnson
Clayton Kershaw
Chris Sale
Sandy Koufax
Tom Seaver
Mariano Rivera
Madison Bumgarner
Are ALL better...in fact...
There are 300 pitchers ranked ahead of Nolan Ryan in (BB + H)/IP with a minimum of 1000 innings pitched.
Most overrated players:
John Elway
Nolan Ryan
Derek Jeter
Michael Jordan
Roger Clemens
Pedro Martinez
Randy Johnson
Clayton Kershaw
Chris Sale
Sandy Koufax
Tom Seaver
Mariano Rivera
Madison Bumgarner
Are ALL better...in fact...
There are 300 pitchers ranked ahead of Nolan Ryan in (BB + H)/IP with a minimum of 1000 innings pitched.
Most overrated players:
John Elway
Nolan Ryan
Derek Jeter
Michael Jordan
Posted on 7/20/16 at 6:46 pm to McCaigBro69
Is Ryan still considered a modern era pitcher?
Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:33 pm to McCaigBro69
People love Nolan...but there are a lot of good articles out there about "putting Ryan in perspective" despite his K's (longevity) along with Ryan holds the record for walking the most batters in a career with 2,795 (longevity and wildness).
Nolan was not a maestro like Koufax or Pedro.
He was rock and fire and really was a walk machine his first 10 years.
Nolan was not a maestro like Koufax or Pedro.
He was rock and fire and really was a walk machine his first 10 years.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 9:24 pm to McCaigBro69
Randy Johnson > Nolan Ryan
Better SO/9innings, way better win%, more Cy Young's, similar wins & era
If you want to go to advanced stats, Johnson kills him in WAR, WAA, and every other adv stat just about
Johnson did it all in less games, less seasons and during the steroid era
Johnson had more wins than Ryan in his 40s despite one less season and won Cy Young awards age 35,36,37,38, 40
Johnson retired at 45 despite having a winning record every season of his 40s
Better SO/9innings, way better win%, more Cy Young's, similar wins & era
If you want to go to advanced stats, Johnson kills him in WAR, WAA, and every other adv stat just about
Johnson did it all in less games, less seasons and during the steroid era
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those other pussies would have had their cute little numbers vastly destroyed had they pitched till age 46.
Johnson had more wins than Ryan in his 40s despite one less season and won Cy Young awards age 35,36,37,38, 40
Johnson retired at 45 despite having a winning record every season of his 40s
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 7/21/16 at 7:18 am to McCaigBro69
quote:
Watched the documentary 'Fastball' on Netflix
quote:
Will there ever be a greater pitcher than Nolan Ryan in the modern era?
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