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re: Complaints about the "lack of educational opportunity" for blacks.

Posted on 7/12/16 at 11:43 am to
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15413 posts
Posted on 7/12/16 at 11:43 am to
Not necessarily. If you grow up in the hood. Chances are it is a shitty school with shitty teachers where you learn nothing.

If youre atleast in a decent middle class area, chances are your school is so much better.

Also, when talking secondary plans. For most black people, they know very few people who even went to college, let alone graduate. Some dont know any who has actually went to college.

But on the other hand. More often than not for whites, you likely know multiple people who not only went to college, but also graduated.

See all of these things come into play when talking about educational opportunity.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83653 posts
Posted on 7/12/16 at 11:44 am to
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Not necessarily. If you grow up in the hood. Chances are it is a shitty school with shitty teachers where you learn nothing.


not a race issue

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Also, when talking secondary plans. For most black people, they know very few people who even went to college, let alone graduate. Some dont know any who has actually went to college.


not a race issue

these are all class issues

Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38426 posts
Posted on 7/12/16 at 11:47 am to
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See all of these things come into play when talking about educational opportunity.


Those are excuses. And Im not disregarding the fact that certain people may have it harder than others because of outside circumstances, but the opportunities are there you just have to care enough to use them.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44273 posts
Posted on 7/12/16 at 11:53 am to
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See all of these things come into play when talking about educational opportunity.


Most of what you listed has nothing to do with the education institutions, but rather the social issues that hold people back.

That's kind of the point.....Don't blame the schools when the parents aren't giving the necessary support from the start.
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
8552 posts
Posted on 7/12/16 at 12:10 pm to
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For most black people, they know very few people who even went to college, let alone graduate. Some dont know any who has actually went to college.

Sounds like an excuse for not going to college or getting an education to me.
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More often than not for whites, you likely know multiple people who not only went to college, but also graduated.

Neither one of my parents, and none of my grandparents attended college. My uncle is the only one before myself who graduated from college, on either side of my entire family. None of this was relevant when it came time to decide whether or not I was going to college.
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See all of these things come into play when talking about educational opportunity.

Excuses do not come into play. I'm sorry but they don't.
This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 12:11 pm
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
4795 posts
Posted on 7/12/16 at 12:44 pm to
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Not necessarily. If you grow up in the hood. Chances are it is a shitty school with shitty teachers where you learn nothing.

If youre atleast in a decent middle class area, chances are your school is so much better.

Also, when talking secondary plans. For most black people, they know very few people who even went to college, let alone graduate. Some dont know any who has actually went to college.

But on the other hand. More often than not for whites, you likely know multiple people who not only went to college, but also graduated.

See all of these things come into play when talking about educational opportunity.



this is true ( not as a race issue) but my point is stop the cycle. Don't resort to living in the hood on food stamps. Get a job no matter what it is and work to get out the hood. Thats the first step. Next step dont have 10 kids if you can't afford to get out the hood. If every parent in the hood would attempt this then something might happen. do something
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