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re: Batman vs superman. Worth a watch or don't bother?

Posted on 6/29/16 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 1:24 pm to
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Marvel will get a pass on just about everything here, DC will get lambasted for every minor misstep.


Marvel has never and will never get a pass for what they did to both Mandarin and Tony Stark in Iron Man 3.

Similarly, DC will never get a pass on what they did to Lex in BvS.

In fact, Iron Man 3 is a pretty good comparison to the fricked up portrayals of Superman and Lex.

And plenty of people, myself included, blasted Marvel for what they did in neutering Ultron.

In MoS, Zodd was so great myself and bunch of other actually were rooting for Zodd to kill the immature little shite Superman they created.

Zodd was a better villain than many of the Marvel villains. He was certainly more cruel and badass than Ultron turned out to be.

That said, DC nailed Batman with Affleck and hopefully they give Affleck as much control as possible on his stand alone films.

And I know a bunch of us are excited about Suicide Squad. DC will probably get praise for that too.

The difference is that Marvel set up their universe correctly and they do way more correct than they do incorrect.

DC has way more problems than it does success at this point and the criticism correctly reflects that.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20532 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 1:40 pm to
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The difference is that Marvel set up their universe correctly and they do way more correct than they do incorrect.
Marvel fumbled around with Hulk twice before getting it right in Avengers. Marvel (extended, not the actual current MCU) wasted and threw away the Fantastic Four. They let Spiderman get stuck in a repeating time-loop. Their popular X-Men franchise is zigzagging back and forth in time, from the 90's to the 60's to the future to the 70's to the 80's. They let a potentially cool figure in Ghost Rider become a joke... just imagine if they were to introduce him with the proper mood and actor, into the MCU (that's for fans of Ghost Rider comic, not the Nicolas Cage movies).

But that's not the MCU, you say:

Ok, Green Lantern isn't DCU. Nolan's Dark Knight with the ridiculous TDKR isn't in it.

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Zodd was a better villain than many of the Marvel villains. He was certainly more cruel and badass than Ultron turned out to be.

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DC nailed Batman with Affleck and hopefully they give Affleck as much control as possible on his stand alone films.
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a bunch of us are excited about Suicide Squad
2 films, we get a great villain, the near-perfect Batman, and excitement for the next movie.

That's not awful.
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