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re: Batman vs superman. Worth a watch or don't bother?
Posted on 6/29/16 at 1:04 pm to Scoob
Posted on 6/29/16 at 1:04 pm to Scoob
Marvel will get a pass on just about everything here; DC will get lambasted for every minor misstep. Face it, if Superman had done the "superhero landing in BvS post- Deadpool the Marvel fanboys on here would be screaming, "Snyder is such a clichéd hack!!! Deadpool totally clowned him!!! What a POS!" Yet, in Civil War Spiderman nails the dismount in the epitome of the "superhero landing" and what do we hear? Crickets. And the Marvel fanboys here will deny it, but they know it's true.
BvS' Batman action scenes are some of the best in the superhero genre. Was it the greatest movie I've seen? Nope. Enjoyed it, though.
BvS' Batman action scenes are some of the best in the superhero genre. Was it the greatest movie I've seen? Nope. Enjoyed it, though.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 1:09 pm to SoFla Tideroller
quote:Thor and Iron Man do it all the time, too.
Face it, if Superman had done the "superhero landing in BvS post- Deadpool the Marvel fanboys on here would be screaming, "Snyder is such a clichéd hack!!! Deadpool totally clowned him!!! What a POS!" Yet, in Civil War Spiderman nails the dismount in the epitome of the "superhero landing" and what do we hear? Crickets
And let's admit it, it's what we want.I can't understand how anyone takes any of these films very seriously.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 1:24 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Marvel will get a pass on just about everything here, DC will get lambasted for every minor misstep.
Marvel has never and will never get a pass for what they did to both Mandarin and Tony Stark in Iron Man 3.
Similarly, DC will never get a pass on what they did to Lex in BvS.
In fact, Iron Man 3 is a pretty good comparison to the fricked up portrayals of Superman and Lex.
And plenty of people, myself included, blasted Marvel for what they did in neutering Ultron.
In MoS, Zodd was so great myself and bunch of other actually were rooting for Zodd to kill the immature little shite Superman they created.
Zodd was a better villain than many of the Marvel villains. He was certainly more cruel and badass than Ultron turned out to be.
That said, DC nailed Batman with Affleck and hopefully they give Affleck as much control as possible on his stand alone films.
And I know a bunch of us are excited about Suicide Squad. DC will probably get praise for that too.
The difference is that Marvel set up their universe correctly and they do way more correct than they do incorrect.
DC has way more problems than it does success at this point and the criticism correctly reflects that.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 2:17 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Marvel will get a pass on just about everything here; DC will get lambasted for every minor misstep.
The more that people (and trust me, there aren't really sides, we all love comic books) think this, the more it affects arguments. It just isn't true. However, MCU films are unequivocally more successful at this point, so yes, they get more praise. That's just a fact. Not some kind of bias.
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Face it, if Superman had done the "superhero landing in BvS post- Deadpool the Marvel fanboys on here would be screaming, "Snyder is such a clichéd hack!!! Deadpool totally clowned him!!! What a POS!" Yet, in Civil War Spiderman nails the dismount in the epitome of the "superhero landing" and what do we hear? Crickets.
You're reading this moment so wrong. First, no one would have complained at all about a landing in BvS, there were other more important things to care about. You're just making this up.
Two, people cheered over the Spider-Man entrance, not because he landed in a super hero pose, but because it was a HUGE win to get THAT specific hero in THAT specific film at THAT specific time. It was triumphant because of his entrance into the MCU, not because people liked his landing. You have to read between the lines...
Three, even if you don't want to read between the lines, Spider-Man more than any other hero just about, is iconic partially BECAUSE of his form. Getting the way he moves right is part of getting the character right. So yes, it's more important for Spidey to look cool landing, swinging, and jumping more than any other comic book character. Superman's iconic form, which people jizzed over in the MoS trailers, was the one hand out flying. And we got. And people cheered.
Don't make stuff up.
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BvS' Batman action scenes are some of the best in the superhero genre.
The warehouse Batman fight was awesome. And that's about it for sequences. The Doomsday fight was just lights and explosions. And the BvS fight was pretty tame outside of a few frames.
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