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re: Shooting at Orlando gay club: 50 Dead, 53 Injured, Shooter is Radical Muslim

Posted on 6/14/16 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 2:20 pm to
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No it isn't. There were two prevailing theories; the individual rights interpretation and the collective rights interpretations (plural because there were two distinct legal theories there "original" and the "sophisticated"). The 2008 v Heller case settled that, all nine SCOTUS justices held that the individual right interpretation is the correct reading (5-4 is the split of the scope of that interpretation). There is no longer any rational reason to think there is an interpretation that makes the 2nd Amendment only apply to those serving in militias.


I haven't read that case or the opinion, but I imagine that there is a rational reason to think there is an interpretation that the 2nd Amendment applies only to militias since 4 of 9 Supreme Court Justices appear to have dissented from the decision to the contrary. That seems like the very definition of "rational reason."
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 2:24 pm to
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I haven't read that case or the opinion, but I imagine that there is a rational reason to think there is an interpretation that the 2nd Amendment applies only to militias since 4 of 9 Supreme Court Justices appear to have dissented from the decision to the contrary. That seems like the very definition of "rational reason."


I just explained to you that all 9 justices held for the individual interpretation. There is no argument on that part now. The dissent applied to the scope of the individual right. The same unanimous decision came down in Caetano v Massachusetts just a few months ago. You really need to read these cases, you are way off.
Posted by Longclaw02
Member since May 2016
54 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 2:24 pm to
I would honestly love to have a gun and never have to use it, as opposed to not having one and needing it.
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