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I mean that was the point. To show how immature he is. He's powerful as frick, but he's a crybaby with a short temper. That's what they went for.

There's a way to show immaturity without making him look so weak and whiny. If that's what they went for it didn't work IMO. He was undermined the whole movie.

ETA: and if they wanted to show how "powerful as frick" he was, why let a little girl who doesn't even know she's a jedi bitch slap him the whole movie?

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Posted by OMLandshark

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Posted on 6/11/16 at 10:15 am to rintintin

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ETA: and if they wanted to show how "powerful as frick" he was, why let a little girl who doesn't even know she's a jedi bitch slap him the whole movie?

Because he's poorly trained, is not as powerful as he thinks he is, and is conflicted as hell. Confliction and the Force don't really go all that well together. Kylo Ren is weak, and he himself knows it.

Everything you need to know about the character is really shown by his lightsaber. Highly flawed, un-focused, conflicted, out of control, unstable, and dangerous. Unlike say Darth Maul, where his lightsaber just says he's a bad arse and that's it.

Kylo Ren is a character first and better than Vader was in ANH. Go back and watch that one, because people sass off to Vader all the time in that one. No one has the balls to do such a thing in ESB.

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Posted by meeple

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Posted on 6/11/16 at 11:00 am to rintintin

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ETA: and if they wanted to show how "powerful as frick" he was, why let a little girl who doesn't even know she's a jedi bitch slap him the whole movie?

To add to what's already been said, Kylo Ren was mortally wounded by Chewbacca's bowcaster. They made it a point in the film to show how destructive that weapon was, typically knocking stormtroopers off their feet and throwing them several yards away. He had also just murdered his father, adding to the confliction that was already mentioned. He was an emotional and physical wreck at that point.

ETA: Not to mention that Snoke wants him to bring Rey to him in order to turn her. Han told the truth when he told Kylo that Snoke would be done with him when he gets what he wants... which would likely be Rey in this story. I can imagine that is eating away at him.

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