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re: Specific Reasons Why Superhero Movies Ruined Comic Books
Posted on 5/19/16 at 1:06 pm to Roaad
Posted on 5/19/16 at 1:06 pm to Roaad
The success of the films have ruined comics for many continuity obsessed, long term fans of Marvel/DC like me, but that doesn't mean they've ruined the medium.
The independent distributors that survived the 90/00's have benefited the most from the comic film explosion, with the mass exodus of so many creators looking to own rights to their ideas and its definitely hurt the big two and caused them to scramble to figure out how to make as much as they used to(they won't).
You have DC running in circles, rebooting their line then wiping out continuity almost completely to grab the younger generation, only to quickly realize they should've stuck to what they've always done best which is embrace their characters long histories.
Marvel has been damaged the most via tabling(FF) or wholly ignoring historically successful franchises of the past(Xmen) while at the same time, has made some of the boldest moves within the continuity of their universe.
It is very interesting to watch the entire situation evolve and I don't think its close to over yet.
The independent distributors that survived the 90/00's have benefited the most from the comic film explosion, with the mass exodus of so many creators looking to own rights to their ideas and its definitely hurt the big two and caused them to scramble to figure out how to make as much as they used to(they won't).
You have DC running in circles, rebooting their line then wiping out continuity almost completely to grab the younger generation, only to quickly realize they should've stuck to what they've always done best which is embrace their characters long histories.
Marvel has been damaged the most via tabling(FF) or wholly ignoring historically successful franchises of the past(Xmen) while at the same time, has made some of the boldest moves within the continuity of their universe.
It is very interesting to watch the entire situation evolve and I don't think its close to over yet.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 1:46 pm to Murray
Honestly, slowing the growth of the X-universe is the best thing that's happened to the X-Men in forever. the proliferation of mutant titles was absurd, and it destroyed continuity, character, and basic storytelling. A smaller universe for the X-Men is outstanding (and I am as big of Claremont fanboy as you'll find, but his run of greatness was from roughly 1975-1991... if they need Claremont still, that says more about the writing talent than the movies).
Yes, shuttering the Fantastic Four was sad but no one bought that book for ages, and it closed with a brilliant run by Waid and the Secret Wars miniseries by Hickman being a FF story. They went out with a bang.
And I'm not sure about the article's final point: movies are terrible for comics, but the real tragedy is that DC isn't turning its Vertigo line into movies. I mean, that's a fundamental disconnect in the argument. If movies are so bad for the form, then no movies is a good thing.
And I'd argue that comics right now are experiencing a Golden Age of quality and critical respect... just not DC and Marvel. The Eisner Awards (the comic book Oscars) are now resolutely ignoring the Big Two. Only the Silver Surfer and Ms. Marvel got nominations in any category. Boom!, Dark Horse, Valiant, and Image are dominating the awards, as they are dominating the medium right now. EVERYTHING interesting in comics right now are happening at the indies (save maybe Ms. Marvel). Any self-respecting list of the best titles of the past 10 years would be dominated by Image.
The movies have been great for comics. It's given people an in on an intimidating hobby. But fans are being steered away from the Big Two and into more interesting fare. The Big Two are still getting rich, and they give a place for writers/artists to hone their craft before setting off on their own at smaller companies where they will own the rights to their characters. Which is also why no one is making a movie of Y The Last Man, despite its near universal acclaim: you gotta pay both Image and Brian Vaughan and Pia Guerra. Iron Man, you just pay Marvel and do what you want.
Yes, shuttering the Fantastic Four was sad but no one bought that book for ages, and it closed with a brilliant run by Waid and the Secret Wars miniseries by Hickman being a FF story. They went out with a bang.
And I'm not sure about the article's final point: movies are terrible for comics, but the real tragedy is that DC isn't turning its Vertigo line into movies. I mean, that's a fundamental disconnect in the argument. If movies are so bad for the form, then no movies is a good thing.
And I'd argue that comics right now are experiencing a Golden Age of quality and critical respect... just not DC and Marvel. The Eisner Awards (the comic book Oscars) are now resolutely ignoring the Big Two. Only the Silver Surfer and Ms. Marvel got nominations in any category. Boom!, Dark Horse, Valiant, and Image are dominating the awards, as they are dominating the medium right now. EVERYTHING interesting in comics right now are happening at the indies (save maybe Ms. Marvel). Any self-respecting list of the best titles of the past 10 years would be dominated by Image.
The movies have been great for comics. It's given people an in on an intimidating hobby. But fans are being steered away from the Big Two and into more interesting fare. The Big Two are still getting rich, and they give a place for writers/artists to hone their craft before setting off on their own at smaller companies where they will own the rights to their characters. Which is also why no one is making a movie of Y The Last Man, despite its near universal acclaim: you gotta pay both Image and Brian Vaughan and Pia Guerra. Iron Man, you just pay Marvel and do what you want.
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