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re: Canada announces plans to legalize weed nationwide
Posted on 4/21/16 at 2:04 am to Manchac Man
Posted on 4/21/16 at 2:04 am to Manchac Man
No troll. It's widely accepted fact that the drug war is,a royal failure. Violent drug dealers exist because of the illegal nature of drugs.
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Posted on 4/21/16 at 2:06 am to hendersonshands
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You honestly think most people would grow their own? You can grow tomatoes at home but motherfrickers still go to the grocery store for produce.
Do tomatoes cost a few hundred dollars an ounce? If they did I can assure you most people would grow them at home.Posted on 4/21/16 at 2:08 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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Do you have any idea how much effort and money it takes to grow decent weed? 95% of smokers would not grow.
If it is legal and you can grow outdoors it takes almost zero effort, you just throw good seeds in decent soil and harvest at the right time of year.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 2:17 am to RogerTheShrubber
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It's widely accepted fact that the drug war is,a royal failure.
No doubt that the drug war has seemed like a failure.
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Violent drug dealers exist because of the illegal nature of drugs.
It's really not the drug dealers I'm worried about. Heck my girlfriends dad in high school was a big time dealer (little did I know at the time) and the nicest guy ever. It's the end user and the atmosphere that they create in society that I fear. I've seen first hand what meth does to my workers, I've seen the unpredictable crackheads lurking the streets near by family functions. Drugs exist because of people and not because of a drug dealer. The illegal portion of that is to limit the availability of those drugs that make people violent, crazy, unpredictable, impaired or otherwise worthless to society.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 2:17 am to Manchac Man
quote:That's a scary way to think. Where do you draw the line?
The major factor concluded was that as a whole on society, it was negative.
No more fast food? fast cars?
Posted on 4/21/16 at 2:21 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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hat's a scary way to think. Where do you draw the line?
No more fast food? fast cars?
Understandable, but logically there has to be a line drawn. If not, where would that leave our world. And the debate continues,lol
But there are measures put in place to control both fast foods and fast cars, make no mistake.
This post was edited on 4/21/16 at 2:24 am
Posted on 4/21/16 at 2:21 am to lsu480
let's be honest, most people who smoke pot either live in apartments or don't have the drive to grow something. if you're growing it on a patio or whatever it would probably get stolen. I bet there would be HOA restrictions against growing it as well.
my 95% number might be high, but the vast majority of smokers wouldn't grow their own.
my 95% number might be high, but the vast majority of smokers wouldn't grow their own.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 2:33 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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let's be honest, most people who smoke pot either live in apartments or don't have the drive to grow something.
at the apartment thing because there is a lot of truth to that but if you have quality seeds, which everyone would have if it was 100% legal, growing outside is literally as easy as putting it in decent soil in the spring and harvesting it in the fall. You might have to water every once in awhile but it is really that easy.Posted on 4/21/16 at 8:07 am to Mr.Perfect
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If decriminalization occurred, people would grow their own and no taxes would be generated.
Do you make your own beer? I do, but I still buy about 95% of the beer I consume. Are you people really this obtuse?
Posted on 4/21/16 at 8:29 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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let's be honest, most people who smoke pot either live in apartments or don't have the drive to grow something. if you're growing it on a patio or whatever it would probably get stolen. I bet there would be HOA restrictions against growing it as well. my 95% number might be high, but the vast majority of smokers wouldn't grow their own.
And that's not even acknowledging the fact that even more than 5% would grow their own (they wouldn't), it still wouldn't be as good as the "good stuff" from out west. The main supply would still be bought.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 8:50 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Weed melts brains! Chaos! Other unsubstantiated claims!!!
Posted on 4/21/16 at 8:55 am to Jim Rockford
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This post was edited on 4/8/19 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 4/21/16 at 9:04 am to Jim Rockford
Posted on 4/21/16 at 9:22 am to NYNolaguy1
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Meh, regardless of whatever the federal govt does, Louisiana will be the last state to ever decriminalize or legalize it.
I've always thought that but I've seen more weed stories on the news here in Louisiana than I've ever had. More people on social media in acceptance. The stigma is wearing off and I think the bullshite excuses the govt uses is wearing thin for alot of people.
Medical marijuana expansion passes Louisiana Senate on 2nd try
I was shocked to even see medical being discussed by Louisiana politicians. Not necessarily sure it will get passed the House, but it's a step in that direction, nonetheless. A far cry from 10 years ago.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 9:28 am to Prominentwon
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was shocked to even see medical being discussed by Louisiana politicians. Not necessarily sure it will get passed the House, but it's a step in that direction, nonetheless. A far cry from 10 years ago.
Which means at a minimum it will be another 10 years before it's anywhere near passage. Let's be honest here, the only way it gets passed is if the current yahoos in Baton Rouge either die of old age or are run out of town. They have been there far too long to just give up the current stranglehold on power they have, especially the DA and sheriffs associations.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 9:33 am to lsu480
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Do tomatoes cost a few hundred dollars an ounce? If they did I can assure you most people would grow them at home.
What do you think would happen to the price of weed if it was legalized? It would drop drastically. Go ahead and make tomatoes illegal and see how much the price would rise?
Posted on 4/21/16 at 9:49 am to Manchac Man
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e illegal portion of that is to limit the availability of those drugs that make people violent, crazy, unpredictable, impaired or otherwise worthless to society.
The number of hardcore users will have little variance whether it's legal or illegal. Dangerous designer drugs would probably lose out to coke and weed If they were ever to be legal
The illegal nature of the drug industry does not make you any safer
This post was edited on 4/21/16 at 9:53 am
Posted on 4/21/16 at 9:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Dangerous designer drugs would probably lose out to coke and weed If they were ever to be legal
I think this has been really overlooked by many in the WOD. Does that bullshite synthetic weed (that fricks you up 1000x more than actual weed) ever get invented if actual weed was legal?
And even if it would, would nearly as many people tried it? I doubt many people looking for "Synthetic" weed would smoke that over the real thing if both were legal and available.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 9:59 am to Mr.Perfect
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This is pure stupidity.
If prohibition ended, people would brew their own alcohol and no taxes would be generated.
You fricker have fried your brains
- fify
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The number of hardcore users will have little variance whether it's legal or illegal.
Clearly the ones that are already using hardcore in an illegal setting are not going to change.
When a substance is cheaper and readily more available (once legalized) then it only makes sense that usage increases along with users. How many times do you think the worthless hardcore user said before he took his/her first hit of anything.... I'm probably going to be hooked...I can afford this coke but once I go broke I'll be a crackhead. I understand weed is in a different ballpark and the subject of the OP but the concepts are all similar.
The basic theory of mine is that many people can handle casual drug usage and many people can't handle it. There is really only one way to find that out. It's not worth it as I see.
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The illegal nature of the drug industry does not make you any safer
I just don't see any truth to this statement. Once again, it's not the casual users or the dealers that are going to be a problem to the immediate society.
This post was edited on 4/21/16 at 11:58 am
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