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re: Big Brother 18 - Season Long Thread (SPOILERS)

Posted on 8/25/16 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 2:03 pm to
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Bamatab


do you consider james a floater?

If people want to make that their strategy (don't do shite for the first half, don't win comps, don't make waves, be friends with everybody) that's fine. It's their choice. But we need to call a spade a spade. The fact that james was well liked last time, is a returning player this time, and does have a likeable personality wins him favor with the public. But him going somewhat far both times I think has skewed people's opinion into thinking he's actually a good player.

He's not, he's really no different than michelle. In fact, I'd argue Michelle has actually "played the game" better because she helped spearhead Paulie's Rebellion.

James hasn't done a got damn thing other than last week when he went along with someone else's wishes (what's new) and put up some people he maybe didn't want to.

I don't dislike james personally AT ALL. I'd hang out with james, and like him I am also very non-confrontational IRL and go out of my way to please people. But the more I watch the more the truth is quite clear to me; he's a bad player, has no plan of action, and absolutely refuses to do anything that could put the slightest target on him. He's the definition of a floater.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:17 pm to
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do you consider james a floater?

I guess it depends on what your definition of a floater is. My definition of a floater is someone that isn't playing the game socially, not just comps wise. When I think of floaters, I think of the Victoria types who are never part of, or privy to, the discussions to evict people in the house.

James was part of the power structure of the house from week one, whether it was with the 8 pack or the executives. He made strong connections with multiple people in the house (especially Nat, Nicole, Corey, Paulie & even Day), and secondary connections with just about everyone else in the house at one point in time (except for Josea). He has been privy to the decisions and part of the conversations to evict everyone in the house up to this point in the game.

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If people want to make that their strategy (don't do shite for the first half, don't win comps, don't make waves, be friends with everybody) that's fine. It's their choice. But we need to call a spade a spade. The fact that james was well liked last time, is a returning player this time, and does have a likeable personality wins him favor with the public. But him going somewhat far both times I think has skewed people's opinion into thinking he's actually a good player.


Now by no means am I saying that he's been the mastermind behind anything that has happened this season (because he sure as heck hasn't in any way, shape, or form), but at least he was privy to what was going on all season. And this week he was able to keep Nat and Michelle on track with voting Victor out when they could've very easily flipped (and was still having to keep them on track as of early this morning due to Victor and Paul's plan last night/this morning). And this week he also positioned himself with a possible final 3 with Nicole & Corey if Nat and Michelle get taken out in the weeks to come (if Paulie doesn't come back into the house).

I'm not saying that James has been playing a great game by any stretch of the imagination, but compared everyone else that is left in the house, outside of possibly Paul, he has been playing an ok game. Victor is about to be evicted for the second time in this game because he doesn't know how to keep a low profile. Nicole & Corey haven't made any real attempts at making social connections with anyone left in the house except for James. Nat has James and reeled in Michelle, but she just torpedoed her relation with Paul (who is still left in the house). If she would've let Corey take this HOH, she could've probably established a game connection with Paul & Victor like the one that James has with Nicole & Corey. Michelle is actually closer to my definition of a floater (she did not help spearhead Paulie's downfall, she just happened to be the benefactor of Nat & Bridgette's rebellion). Michelle makes no effort what so ever to socialize with anyone, and as a matter of a fact, she goes out of her way to piss off the other people she doesn't feel is on her side (which is constantly changing).

Again, I'm not saying that James has played a great game (or even a good game really), but he's played an ok game considering how the house dynamics played out this season.
This post was edited on 8/25/16 at 3:19 pm
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