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Thoughts on trying the mentally insane

Posted on 4/8/16 at 7:55 am
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/8/16 at 7:55 am
After they've been arrested for a heinous crime? I wanted to conduct an experiment and see what the OT's thoughts were on capital punishment (death or life in prison) for those wanted for a heinous crime.

Example: LINK

Why house this guy in a treatment facility and risk him getting out and murdering another woman because we're to rehab him so that he can stand trial to receive life in prison. Why not just give him life if all the evidence points to him?


Ill sit back and wait for the replies and downvotes from you safe-space campers.

ETA: Harsh title.
This post was edited on 4/8/16 at 7:56 am
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65974 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:00 am to

Ready to double down and proactively "off" all people with mental illnesses? Could save a few lives in yiur scenario
Posted by MLSter
Member since Feb 2013
3972 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:01 am to
Just kill them
Posted by Rockbrc
Attic
Member since Nov 2015
7950 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:07 am to
Have them run for congress
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:08 am to
Insane would describe a criminal who has no recollection and no remorse of what he/she has done, correct? Asking because my wife was involved in a case where the guy was pleading insanity but he understood and was sorry for what he did. So, her and the jury found him sane so he can have the capital punishment charge if found guilty.
Posted by Mootsman
Charlotte, NC
Member since Oct 2012
6025 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:09 am to


Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13935 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:18 am to
Put them in a mental facility instead of prison if you want, but they should not have any avenues to freedom later on that a "mental sane" criminal doesn't have.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13622 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Garver was charged in 2013 with tying a 20-year-old woman to her bed with electrical cords, stabbing her 24 times in the chest and slashing her throat, Snohomish County Assistant Prosecutor Craig Matheson said.


He was charged. If he were convicted of this (DNA at the scene, murder weapon, fingerprints, witnesses, etc) then he should have been brought out back and shot in the head. If he's sane enough to commit such a horrendous act, then he's sane enough to be shot like the animal he is. frick him. I hope he's found before he can do this to someone else. If he does end up hurting someone else, the we know who to blame.

quote:

Garver, who also has a history of running from authorities, was moved to a lower-security unit of the state's largest psychiatric hospital after a judge said treatment to prepare him to face criminal charges was not working.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21867 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:30 am to
If anything, someone who is deemed "mentally insane" who committed a heinous, capital-offense-worthy act should just be put down- taken out back after a guilty-verdict and bullet to back of the head- 100% of the time if the crime warrants such a punishment, because they have no chance at rehabilitation.


Either that, or sanity should just never be taken into consideration. I'm not keen on the idea of a sliding scale of morality and punishment dependent on how disgusting or demented a person's behavior may be. Either they did something worth the same punishment a "sane" person would receive doing the same action, or they didn't.


I guess what I mean to say is that mental insanity should be considered the nail in the coffin, rather than the redemption card which stays the hand of the state-sanctioned reaper as it is used today.
This post was edited on 4/8/16 at 8:35 am
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24697 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:40 am to
Interesting responses.

Ill ask another question. What's to say one cant "fake" a mental illness? Doctors cant diagnose a flu these days much less accurately diagnose an ever evolving mental illnesss
Posted by IKWDK
Maringouin
Member since Jul 2015
25 posts
Posted on 4/9/16 at 9:22 am to
My ex husband faked a mental illness to get out of responsibility.. Stayed two weeks at the place and never took the dam meds prescribed to him for his so said depression... And tried to use "I was sick then" in the argument... ASSCLOWN!
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131502 posts
Posted on 4/9/16 at 9:31 am to
I don't think mental capacity should apply at the time of trial. It should be taken into consideration during sentencing.

Posted by Boxcar
Richmond VA
Member since Mar 2016
900 posts
Posted on 4/9/16 at 9:35 am to
Cop out.
Bullet to the back of the head should be the penalty.
Posted by SleauxPlay
Here and there
Member since Oct 2005
3427 posts
Posted on 4/9/16 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Why house this guy in a treatment facility and risk him getting out and murdering another woman because we're to rehab him so that he can stand trial to receive life in prison. Why not just give him life if all the evidence points to him?


This is a pretty common misconception. NGRI Acquitees generally spend more time in state hospitals than they would had they been found guilty and gone to prison.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15795 posts
Posted on 4/9/16 at 10:21 am to
I don't believe in this mental health bullshite... Do the crime, do the time
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 8:57 pm to
Scizos? No. Bipolar and the like who refused to take their meds? Yes.
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