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Why Ben Simmons isn't the top prospect in the 2016 NBA draft - Yahoo

Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:51 pm
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:51 pm
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1. Simmons’ lack of competitiveness in some crucial games has raised questions about his character as a basketball player.


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2. Simmons’ box scores have grown increasingly hollow.


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3. The report on defending Simmons in the half-court is well known and has been utilized effectively in recent weeks.


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4. The concerns about Simmons’ character didn’t magically appear the moment he arrived on campus in Baton Rouge. Those who know him best say he needs things to revolve around him on and off the court and that he's often been close-minded to coaching or instruction.


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Although he's not the generational talent he's been sold as by some, he's a unique prospect who could emerge as an incredible asset to a team down the road if he's willing to address his flaws.


Hard to disagree with anything in this article.
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 3:53 pm
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28501 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:51 pm to
"Splash Reports" -Sean Payton
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24515 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:53 pm to
Scouts are wowed by his size and athleticism. They all think they can build a jump shot into his game. That's why he'll be the #1 pick.
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 3:54 pm
Posted by drake20
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
13123 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:58 pm to
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Hard to disagree with anything in this article.



Really? This might be the dumbest thing I've ever read about his game:

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At times, it appears he only passes when guaranteed an assist and chases home-run plays at inopportune times in search of a highlight.


He's been criticized all year for being too unselfish with the basketball, and now it is a criticism.

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Teams are putting smaller players on Simmons, backing off him and daring him to shoot. Simmons seems to have zero confidence in his outside shot and becomes passive when guarded this way.


Actually, they were doing the opposite. He's least effective when large bodied players back off and contest him at the rim.
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 3:59 pm
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34830 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 4:01 pm to
so basically everything we have been saying on here. yet we keep getting bashed. The kid is an outstanding player but there is no denying the holes in his game.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66852 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 4:04 pm to
Number 2 is garbage.

If he is having a good game, what more can he do? IF the rest of the team sucks around him its all of A sudden hollow? Go look at his Points in the last few games.

"padding stats in blowouts" is just highsight bullshite. If a guy goes 23/13/6 on 67% shooting look at the rest of the team when they lose by 30. What the frick else is he supposed to do?


Posted by drake20
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
13123 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 4:06 pm to
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Australian players and coaches who have been around him don’t speak about him in flattering terms, calling him “the Yank” to highlight how different he is compared with most of the players from that country, and perhaps highlight how much moving to the United States at a young age and immersing himself in the AAU world has shaped him.


Sounds like a pretty huge reach to me. Would love to see the writer actually support his statement.
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
8024 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 4:08 pm to
Just shoot it Simmons!!.. oh nevermind. BRICK!!!
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
14930 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 4:09 pm to
It's so easy for people to shite on the kid once the season is over. We didn't have our best shooter for half the year, we ran NO OFFENSE thanks to a special ed coach, and our PG hated Ben because he's too hoodrat to see the benefits of playing with him.

Ben is going to be exceptional in the NBA and I love everyone coming to bash on him.

People magically forget Anthony Davis and Kawhi Leonard had zero outside game when they were going to the NBA.
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 4:11 pm
Posted by CoachKlein
Ratchet City
Member since Mar 2015
1492 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 4:20 pm to
I wish Simmons the very best. He needs a change of venue, this year didn't turn out like anyone expected.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28734 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 4:44 pm to
All Johnny fault!!!
Posted by TheMuffinMan
Arlington, VA
Member since Apr 2011
414 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 4:44 pm to
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Hard to disagree with anything in this article.



I'm not finding it very difficult. People have already pointed out the "smaller defenders" nonsense but he also references Simmons' defense as hiding behind "gaudy block numbers." This is simply a click bait article with unresearched and unsubstantiated claims scattered among trite talking points
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 5:09 pm to
Hard to disagree. These issues have been brought up more and more recently and, although shot down by a few, are easily recognized.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10145 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 5:41 pm to
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Hard to disagree with anything in this article.


That article is a load of crap. Are we actually minimizing 20/12/5? All year he's been criticized for deferring to his teammates and now it's all about him? You can't have it both ways.
Posted by cheo25
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
984 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 6:22 pm to
Adrian Wojnarowski has more sources than almost anyone that covers the NBA, and he routinely breaks NBA news before anyone else. It has some legitimacy to it.

The story is full of opinions of people within the league. It doesn't mean they're all right, and it doesn't mean their opinions are accurate or truthful. They're merely opinions they've given Wojnarowski.

Some of you people need a good education on how the media works. This story is like anything else -- consider the possible agendas from the sources and/or the writer (if there is any -- sometimes, there is and sometimes, there isn't) and decide for yourself. I think there's a some truth there but I don't necessarily agree with all of it. I also don't think the entire thing is false or a "splash report." The real truth is somewhere in the middle.
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 6:25 pm
Posted by Teyegrs
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
305 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 6:26 pm to
Ben Simmons will soon have more money than anyone here including the writer of the article. Ben doesn't care.
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5999 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 9:53 pm to
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1. Simmons’ lack of competitiveness in some crucial games has raised questions about his character as a basketball player.


this was definitely a problem. It can be coached and learned.. and probably acquired automatically when you aren't playing with someone (with "good energy") dragging his arms around on the ground like a neanderthal (Quarterman).

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2. Simmons’ box scores have grown increasingly hollow.


Mehh.. He's the only consistent threat LSU had and teams adjusted to that. and he still averaged better than anyone in SEC history.

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4. The concerns about Simmons’ character didn’t magically appear the moment he arrived on campus in Baton Rouge. Those who know him best say he needs things to revolve around him on and off the court and that he's often been close-minded to coaching or instruction.


I'm not sure what the "character questions" are, but he didn't kill anyone.. He might not have done as well in class as someone who didn't have a 100 million dollar paycheck coming, but that's human nature. Not a character issue. I seriously doubt he's tough to coach if he has an actual coach.

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Although he's not the generational talent he's been sold as by some, he's a unique prospect who could emerge as an incredible asset to a team down the road if he's willing to address his flaws.


Kind of like Henry vs. LF7.. One is a better player, one had a better w-l record..

I wouldn't call it stupid for him to go, or not go number 1. Either way.. He's a generational player.. especially as far as LSU is concerned.
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9045 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 10:11 pm to
I bet JJ wishes he never had him.
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
21025 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 7:29 am to
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The concerns about Simmons’ character didn’t magically appear the moment he arrived on campus in Baton Rouge. Those who know him best say he needs things to revolve around him on and off the court and that he's often been close-minded to coaching or instruction.


Then why the hell did we take him? Have fun in the NBA, but you ain't a Tiger!
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6567 posts
Posted on 3/19/16 at 2:33 am to
ITT: kill yourself
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