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Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:26 pm
Great movie in so many respects. Still really the only quality card playing movie and almost single handedly started the Poker craze. Excellent writing, memorable, quotable characters, and Landau and Norton should've gotten Oscar nominations.
Also one of the great seedy underworld New York movies. Really captured late 90s vibe too.
Also one of the great seedy underworld New York movies. Really captured late 90s vibe too.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:29 pm to Jack Ruby
"In the game of life women are the fricking rake"
Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:33 pm to Jack Ruby
Damon's GF in the movie annoyed me
Really enjoyed Landau
Really enjoyed Landau
Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:33 pm to Jack Ruby
I rank the policemen's poker game up there with the curb stomping scene in American History X or in Swingers when Mike just keeps leaving messages.
Great flick.
Great flick.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:58 pm to Jack Ruby
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single handedly started the Poker craze.
I think this guy's improbable 2003 WSOP win did it:
Chris Moneymaker
OH, and her too :
This post was edited on 3/10/16 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:37 pm to Jack Ruby
At the time it was a good movie. Looking back, I think it's OK. Here's my issue with the movie but I will get accused of being too "technical" of this.
1. In the opening scene, Mike buys in 30K in the big game. However, the players have to deal the cards? Come on. Any legit card room will have their own dealers.
2. The hand were Mike goes bust vs KGB. Mike goes "I don't think you have the spades, I'm all in". Pretty bad line to use for a gifted poker player. If you think KGB is bluffing, you just call. You wouldn't go all-in unless you have nuts.
3. Mike owes KGB 15k and he has till morning to pay up. Mike has 10k with him. KGB knows this. However, Mike ask for a heads up match. Why would Teddy play him? Ego? It doesn't make sense because if KBG waits till morning, he gets mike's 10k regardless. Why even play?
4. The part where Mike tells Knish that he beat Johnny Chan. Where he and chan was playing high limit. They kept raising and reraising before the flop. No decent player would fold one more bet and not see a flop. And chan suppose to be a poker god in the movie.
5. Movie portrays Chan as a poker god and Eric Seidel is a loser. Eric Seidel is a great player and still scoring big tournaments.
Knish and Professor was the real hero of the movie. Great performances by Landau and Ed Norton.
1. In the opening scene, Mike buys in 30K in the big game. However, the players have to deal the cards? Come on. Any legit card room will have their own dealers.
2. The hand were Mike goes bust vs KGB. Mike goes "I don't think you have the spades, I'm all in". Pretty bad line to use for a gifted poker player. If you think KGB is bluffing, you just call. You wouldn't go all-in unless you have nuts.
3. Mike owes KGB 15k and he has till morning to pay up. Mike has 10k with him. KGB knows this. However, Mike ask for a heads up match. Why would Teddy play him? Ego? It doesn't make sense because if KBG waits till morning, he gets mike's 10k regardless. Why even play?
4. The part where Mike tells Knish that he beat Johnny Chan. Where he and chan was playing high limit. They kept raising and reraising before the flop. No decent player would fold one more bet and not see a flop. And chan suppose to be a poker god in the movie.
5. Movie portrays Chan as a poker god and Eric Seidel is a loser. Eric Seidel is a great player and still scoring big tournaments.
Knish and Professor was the real hero of the movie. Great performances by Landau and Ed Norton.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:54 pm to Jack Ruby
Random - I'm downloading a fresh copy of this right now. My current copy is old, audio is kinda rough.
Anyway, great movie.
Anyway, great movie.
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:56 pm to Jack Ruby
One of my favorite movies to play the What If game. Get Damon through law school without being derailed by his loser friend. The other is can Lewelyn get away with the money in NCFOM.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 3:37 pm to Jack Ruby
Thought you were asking about the Glenn Ford/Henry Ford western. It was good.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:00 pm to Jack Ruby
I am disappointed a sequel was not made. The actors (Damon, Norton, etc.) were on board for a sequel, but the writing and direction didn't happen.
The movie has turned into a cult film.
The movie has turned into a cult film.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:46 am to Jack Ruby
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and almost single handedly started the Poker craze
I mean it helped but this really isn't true
Online poker + Chris Moneymaker winning the Main Event are the 2 things most responsible.
This post was edited on 3/15/16 at 9:47 am
Posted on 3/15/16 at 9:51 am to Jack Ruby
I like the movie a lot - if anything, Damon held it back a little. He was great in spots, but in other places the movie felt too heavy for him.
Landau and Norton gave A+ performances, I'll agree. Turturro, too. I think that hurts Damon a little, just by comparison. He wasn't bad - he just wasn't as good as the stellar cast around him - at least not consistently.
(ETA: Malkovich was over the top, but the role called for it to a certain degree. Can't give him an A+ because of that accent, but otherwise...)
Landau and Norton gave A+ performances, I'll agree. Turturro, too. I think that hurts Damon a little, just by comparison. He wasn't bad - he just wasn't as good as the stellar cast around him - at least not consistently.
(ETA: Malkovich was over the top, but the role called for it to a certain degree. Can't give him an A+ because of that accent, but otherwise...)
This post was edited on 3/15/16 at 9:53 am
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