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Can someone explain the concept of gold to me?

Posted on 3/10/16 at 8:55 pm
Posted by mandevilletiger34
Member since Dec 2010
863 posts
Posted on 3/10/16 at 8:55 pm
I hear all of these commercials, but I do not understand how it keeps its value.
Posted by PropofoLSU
Irwin, Idaho
Member since Aug 2013
543 posts
Posted on 3/10/16 at 9:30 pm to
If you dont understand how gold keeps its value, its probably not an investment for you.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
4374 posts
Posted on 3/10/16 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

If you dont understand how gold keeps its value, its probably not an investment for you.



Where did the OP say he was going to invest in gold?
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 3/10/16 at 11:13 pm to
Gold's value:

1. Unlike other things of value, gold will stay gold 1000 years from now. It doesn't go bad, it doesn't rust, it doesn't break down.
2. It has a fixed amount. Can't be made up.
3. People have been recognizing it as a store of value for thousands of years.

It's shinny and nice to look at.

But there are things that gold isn't great at.
1. Very hard to break down in smaller units if it is used in transaction.
2. very hard to tell real/fake
3. have to store it somewhere
4. government can confiscate it.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 3/10/16 at 11:31 pm to
Ideally gold shouldn't have much value at all but the world continues to be archaic in such matters.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4596 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 12:09 am to
The one thing you need to know about those commercials is how they preach the dollar will go to 0 and youll need gold to protect against that.......yet they'll only accept your dollar in exchange for the gold.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 4:46 am to
And still over charge you.
Posted by iron banks
Destrehan
Member since Jul 2014
3776 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 6:23 am to
i told my father the same thing when he recently bought gold. If the dollar is so bad why are they selling you the gold and taking your money. He just looked at me like I was stupid
This post was edited on 3/11/16 at 6:24 am
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
3850 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:46 am to
This is actually something I've thought conceptually about a lot. People talk about how things changed when we got off the "gold standard" and that now our money only has value because the US government says it does. I guess the premise is that since our money is no longer "worth" a specific amount of gold, the government can just print money as much as they'd like (which they've done). However, I don't really see the value in gold other than people say/think it is worth something (same as our fiat currency).

Personally, I think if you want a physical asset with intrinsic value you should buy land.
This post was edited on 3/11/16 at 8:47 am
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6535 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:56 am to
Strictly speaking in terms of physical trading and storing. What can gold be used for that makes it valuable? In my mind I only view it as a precious metal for jewelry with little to no utility value. I'd rather have bought water, fuel, or ammo. Am I crazy?
This post was edited on 3/11/16 at 9:07 am
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10117 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 9:02 am to
I also do not understand the concept of gold as currency. Why not rice? Why not grains? What makes gold different from diamonds or dirt? There are a limited amount of both (natural diamonds).
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Unlike other things of value, gold will stay gold 1000 years from now. It doesn't go bad, it doesn't rust, it doesn't break down.


Technically, you are wrong. Every element breaks down and AU is no exception. But I agree with your point.
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 3/11/16 at 10:26 am to
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Why not rice? Why not grains? 


If you store, Rice and grains will eventually go bad if you store them.

They are food meant and are to be eaten. You can trade them in a barter system but they are not a good medium of excange like money or gold. If you want a watermelon and you have a bag of rice to trade, how long will it take you to acquire the watermelon? WHat if the watermelon guy don't want the rice? That's why having a medium of exchange makes transaction smooth an easy.

Problem with fiat is that it can be printed. Go look at the dollar value chart over time. That's why some gold bugs buy gold. I'd say diversify and own a little bit of everything.
Posted by Mootsman
Charlotte, NC
Member since Oct 2012
6025 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 10:42 am to
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If the dollar is so bad why are they selling you the gold and taking your money. He just looked at me like I was stupid


They reinvest the dollar into more gold to sell for more dollars for more gold for more dollars!!!!

ETA: FOR MORE GOLD
This post was edited on 3/11/16 at 10:43 am
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10117 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 10:44 am to
Great answer and I understand all that, but why gold? I guess that's my real question. It's price is completely artribary and how do you pay for said watermelon with gold? What makes it different from diamonds and tulips? Tulips are why I am pessimistic about precious metals.
Posted by Mootsman
Charlotte, NC
Member since Oct 2012
6025 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 10:44 am to
quote:

I also do not understand the concept of gold as currency. Why not rice? Why not grains? What makes gold different from diamonds or dirt? There are a limited amount of both (natural diamonds).


In may ways it's just another form of fiat currency. Just the original fiat currency. It has no practical value however it is a rare mineral. Much like the tulip bulbs of Holland. Pretty to look at but ultimately useless.
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10117 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 10:47 am to
Lol my post above yours expresses that exact concern.
Posted by Mootsman
Charlotte, NC
Member since Oct 2012
6025 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 10:49 am to
quote:

It's price is completely artribary


Supply and Demand. People say invest in guns and gold to hedge. I hold off on the gold and just invest in guns.

quote:

Lol my post above yours expresses that exact concern.


Yes the tulip bubble is a perfect example.
This post was edited on 3/11/16 at 10:51 am
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41257 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:15 am to
quote:

What can gold be used for that makes it valuable? In my mind I only view it as a precious metal for jewelry with little to no utility value. I'd rather have bought water, fuel, or ammo. Am I crazy?


Chances are whatever you used to make that post has gold in it. Only 2 other elements are better conductors.

quote:

According to the World Gold Council, a single mobile device contains up to 50 milligrams of gold. That’s a tiny amount but nearly 1 billion cell phones are produced each year.

Gold can also be found in most standard desktop and laptop computers. The precious metal is used in a CPU’s memory chip and motherboard, allowing parts of your computer to receive power and communicate with each other.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50379 posts
Posted on 3/11/16 at 11:19 am to
quote:

Chances are whatever you used to make that post has gold in it. Only 2 other elements are better conductors.



This is true, but 80% of gold is used for non-technical purposes.
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