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re: Outside the top 4 in the draft who are the top 5 guys you want for this team?

Posted on 3/4/16 at 6:29 pm to
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 3/4/16 at 6:29 pm to
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Sacramento



Only two mocks I looked at from 2011 had Fredette at 10, ahead of all of those guys

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J.J. Rediick


kinda the other side of the coin but

And still wasnt a double digit NBA scorer until his 5th year in the league. Wasn't the player he is now until year seven in the NBA. So you got 4 years of college and 4 years of NBA to hit 10 ppg, and doesnt become a legit NBA starter until he's 28 y/o

JJ has worked HARD to get where he is at, and it obviously took time.


Now, Heild may measure out better than Redick did, thus allowing him to be closer to that 26 y/o Redick than the rookie Redick. In the end, the pick we land will dictate if taking Hield is a value or not.
Posted by NOLA Bronco
Member since Dec 2014
1898 posts
Posted on 3/4/16 at 9:33 pm to
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kinda the other side of the coin but

And still wasnt a double digit NBA scorer until his 5th year in the league. Wasn't the player he is now until year seven in the NBA. So you got 4 years of college and 4 years of NBA to hit 10 ppg, and doesnt become a legit NBA starter until he's 28 y/o

JJ has worked HARD to get where he is at, and it obviously took time.


Now, Heild may measure out better than Redick did, thus allowing him to be closer to that 26 y/o Redick than the rookie Redick. In the end, the pick we land will dictate if taking Hield is a value or not.


My only point was showing an example of what I describe as a tendency for people to dismiss 3-4 year guys who don't wow you with measurables but have proven their abilities, in favor of the allure of young guys with measurables and "potential" that haven't proven anything. That it is a pitfall that many teams continually fall victim of and Reddick is an example of that who also happens to be similar to Hield's situation in that both were 4 year player of the year guys that got passed over for sexy upside guys that proved to be fools gold.

Look at McCollum as another example. 2 inch smaller wingspan then Hield, unlike Hield McCollum was heavily knocked for his size, speed and quickness. Like Hield, CJ was a great shooter, who, with his other 4 year college buddy Lillard(who was knocked for his perceived lack of upside and lack of elite athleticism as well) is turning the Trailblazers from a team people thought was in turmoil to being one of the best young backcourts in the league and just combined for 75 points and 10 assists to almost upset the second seed Raptors. McCollum I might add, is posting ungodly percentages post allstar break. Shooting 53% from three.

This post was edited on 3/4/16 at 9:38 pm
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36443 posts
Posted on 3/4/16 at 9:39 pm to
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J.J. Rediick


kinda the other side of the coin but

And still wasnt a double digit NBA scorer until his 5th year in the league. Wasn't the player he is now until year seven in the NBA. So you got 4 years of college and 4 years of NBA to hit 10 ppg, and doesnt become a legit NBA starter until he's 28 y/o

JJ has worked HARD to get where he is at, and it obviously took time.


He was also fortunate that Orlando was patient and committed to his development. Had they jettisoned him early like Sacramento did with Fredette he might be floating around somewhere in Europe right now.
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