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re: Outside the top 4 in the draft who are the top 5 guys you want for this team?
Posted on 3/4/16 at 5:45 pm to 504ByrdGang
Posted on 3/4/16 at 5:45 pm to 504ByrdGang
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To simplfy it, for Heild to get better at his faults size, speed, and athleticism is less like than Luwawu getting better at his with strength, dribbling, and absorbing contact. As for their level of play, Heild is a man playing with boys and Luwawu is a boy playing with men. I feel like Heild is the safe pick with a low ceiling and if it works out he will be OK and have a role on this squad. Luwau is a riskier pick but if he pans out will be a cornerstone of this team so I guess I rather bet big.
Listen I can accept you like Luwawu over Hield, I can. But this continual false prism you are viewing each player through to buffer your arguments I can not.
Luwawu is only 1 year and 3 months younger then Hield. Luwawu, like Hield, is on his 4th season playing at a true competitive level. So this whole Boy amongst men, men amongst boys thing is just not true. To even further put this in context, Luwawu is playing in a league with probably not a single other NBA caliber talent. Hield plays them regularly. So this argument of competition level is just false.
And again you are framing Hields athleticism, size and speed as if it is below the threshold where a person can succeed in the NBA. Held is very strong. Just to catch Hield, Luwawu would need to put on 20 pounds of muscle. As AD has shown, that is easier said then done and Luwawu is knocked for his small frame and shoulder width which limits his ability to add mass. Hield is graded as having better quickness and athleticism then numerous successful guards like Beal, McCollum, Matthews, Reddick and has a similar height and wingspan. So his measurables are in no way a barrier to him being a high impact player in this league.
I agree Luwawu has a higher ceiling but he also has a ways to go just to get to Hields level. I just don't think we need to misrepresent Hield's own potential to make that case.
This post was edited on 3/4/16 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 3/4/16 at 5:56 pm to NOLA Bronco
I agree, I guess I look at both of their ceiling and like Luwawu more and feel that hes worth that chance.
Posted on 3/5/16 at 4:26 pm to NOLA Bronco
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again you are framing Hields athleticism, size and speed as if it is below the threshold where a person can succeed in the NBA. Held is very strong. Just to catch Hield, Luwawu would need to put on 20 pounds of muscle. As AD has shown, that is easier said then done and Luwawu is knocked for his small frame and shoulder width which limits his ability to add mass
Luwawu is 6'7 205 pounds with a 7'2 wingspan at 19-20 years old. Larger wingspans = ability to put on weight easily as that usually means broad shoulders. See Dwight, AD, Giannis.
Video of his strengths
Weaknesses
In comparison, Batum is 6'8 200 pounds, Kawhi is 6'7 229, Deng is 6'9 220, Giannis is 6'11 216, PG13 and Jimmy both weight 220 pounds. It is not unfeasable for him to gain 10-15 pounds easily with NBA nutritionists and training.
Point blank he could make his size work in the NBA easily right now as a rookie, and he also will continue to grow with that wingspan
This post was edited on 3/5/16 at 4:35 pm
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