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re: Surprise Surprise - FBI wants Apple to unlock additional phones

Posted on 2/24/16 at 6:50 am to
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 6:50 am to
Not your best post.

A. As is pointed out, the NSA is already applying algorithms to all communications.
B. Read the Preamble to the US Constitution: The goal of establishing our government Is to "insure domestic tranquility" "promote the general welfare" and "provide for the common defense". That means having the capacity to effect surveillance. And sometimes this means erring on the side of infringement on personal liberty or freedoms. We have enough lawyers in our society to eventually remediate any errors.
C. I'll take the present excesses of our government versus not having them watching over the situation. I get that we could become more like a police state. If forced to take an extreme from the two choices, I'd rather that than anarchy.



Posted by SomethingLikeA
Member since Jul 2013
1113 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 7:03 am to
Who cares? Government wants to view the phones of criminals and terrorists. Phones they have possession of already. Go for it IMO.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18929 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 7:51 am to
Gee. I didn't have you pegged as a fascist.

There is a famous quote about the man that trades Liberty for Security ending up with neither. You should check that out. BTW. I am pretty far right politically but having been on the inside of the GOV I can tell you that it's power needs to be monitored and controlled lest the "public servants" run amok.
Posted by LetTheValleyShake
Marrero
Member since Mar 2006
1966 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:08 am to
quote:

That means having the capacity to effect surveillance. And sometimes this means erring on the side of infringement on personal liberty or freedoms. We have enough lawyers in our society to eventually remediate any errors. 
C. I'll take the present excesses of our government versus not having them watching over the situation. I get that we could become more like a police state. If forced to take an extreme from the two choices, I'd rather that than anarchy. 


1984
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72216 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:24 am to
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Read the Preamble to the US Constitution
The Preamble does not have any legal authority.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
73056 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:22 am to
quote:

If forced to take an extreme from the two choices, I'd rather that than anarchy.


When a government has become as monolithic, degenerate and corrupt as ours has, it is time for a little anarchy. Read some Thomas Jefferson, you bootlicker.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71539 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:05 pm to
If I was going to quote the constitution, I would quote an enforceable part.

I would also quote the 4th amendment which actually deals with this current issue.
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4738 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

That means having the capacity to effect surveillance. And sometimes this means erring on the side of infringement on personal liberty or freedoms.


Where does it say that at?
Posted by LSUAngelHere
Watson
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 3/1/16 at 10:25 am to
”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.”
Posted by NoNameTiger
Mandeville, LA
Member since Nov 2015
2054 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

If forced to take an extreme from the two choices, I'd rather that than anarchy.
.

I bet if push comes to shove, you'd choose a life of slavery to a life of livery as well.
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