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Surprise Surprise - FBI wants Apple to unlock additional phones
Posted on 2/24/16 at 1:45 am
Posted on 2/24/16 at 1:45 am
Article here
But I thought this was an isolated incident of extreme national security importance.
But I thought this was an isolated incident of extreme national security importance.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 1:46 am
Posted on 2/24/16 at 2:08 am to Spirit of Dunson
Your government will take care of you.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 2:35 am to Spirit of Dunson
I know you're reading, FBI... You suck.
Tag... knock if you dare..
Posted on 2/24/16 at 2:41 am to Spirit of Dunson
I currently have and use an iPhone. That may be coming to a quick end.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 7:55 am to Spirit of Dunson
They've been unlocking phones for the FBI and NSA for awhile. They just dont want this known to the public.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 7:57 am to Spirit of Dunson
Apples stance on this is still so puzzling. Not wanting to help is one thing, but why won't they come out and say whether they can or cannot actually do it?
When the phones are revealed and sold, Apple boast about its robust encryption to the point that they say even Apple cannot get into the phone once it is shipped. If that is the case, why not fall back on that defense? If it isn't the case, and Apple can indeed override security features that lets the FBI brute force the phone, then why say it is impenetrable?
When the phones are revealed and sold, Apple boast about its robust encryption to the point that they say even Apple cannot get into the phone once it is shipped. If that is the case, why not fall back on that defense? If it isn't the case, and Apple can indeed override security features that lets the FBI brute force the phone, then why say it is impenetrable?
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:00 am to Spirit of Dunson
On another note, if, and that is a big if, the phone can be accessed with Apple's help, I don't understand the backlash if the FBI has a warrant.
Creating and implementing a backdoor for the FBI to access going forward is a problem. Helping the FBI access the phones when they have a warrant seems to be a no brainer, assuming they have a warrant.
Creating and implementing a backdoor for the FBI to access going forward is a problem. Helping the FBI access the phones when they have a warrant seems to be a no brainer, assuming they have a warrant.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:02 am to Spirit of Dunson
I am shocked the government would try to take advantage of it's own citizens by breaking the law. Simply shocked.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:49 am to Spirit of Dunson
Americans didn't learn shite from the Snowden debacle
Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:02 am to Spirit of Dunson
WTF would I be doing with my phone,computer,tablet,that I am afraid for the FBI to look at?Nothing.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:38 am to Spirit of Dunson
Maybe there's a silver lining to all of this. Perhaps this will cause a movement to go back to your dummy cell phones with no camera, and no internet, and the govt/hackers will have a whole lot less to go off of.
High tech security doesn't always beat low tech.
High tech security doesn't always beat low tech.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:42 am to Spirit of Dunson
Unlocking nine more phones because the government "might" catch one of the bad guys.
It's amazing what some of you small-government types on this board are ok with.
It's amazing what some of you small-government types on this board are ok with.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:44 am to Spirit of Dunson
quote:nah, there isn't some tool that can be used any time they want to get in. What is used in San berdino can't be used again. And did you forget that Apple has done this for them before?
But I thought this was an isolated incident
Guess what? the FBI has multiple filings for search warrants out right now
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 11:45 am
Posted on 2/24/16 at 1:07 pm to Spirit of Dunson
LINK
This article from last summer lays out what the FBI actually wants, the current pissing match with Apple is just a small part.
"Apple and Google are helping terrorism by offering users encrypted communications, a senior FBI official has told the House Homeland Security Committee in Congress, and US law enforcement needs to stop them from doing it.
As far as the FBI is concerned, private companies must "build technological solutions to prevent encryption above all else," the Washington Post reports Steinbach as saying."
This article from last summer lays out what the FBI actually wants, the current pissing match with Apple is just a small part.
"Apple and Google are helping terrorism by offering users encrypted communications, a senior FBI official has told the House Homeland Security Committee in Congress, and US law enforcement needs to stop them from doing it.
As far as the FBI is concerned, private companies must "build technological solutions to prevent encryption above all else," the Washington Post reports Steinbach as saying."
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:05 pm to Spirit of Dunson
The government can do whatever it wants because of the vague and open ended nature of the Constitution
Posted on 3/1/16 at 7:43 am to Spirit of Dunson
It's 4 fricking numbers, how hard could it be to get into the phone?
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:18 pm to Spirit of Dunson
Those of us with nothing to hid should be okay. Right?
Posted on 3/5/16 at 9:38 am to Spirit of Dunson
Bumping this thread since I had a chance to talk to a close friend in federal law enforcement stationed in DC who sat in on congressional hearings on this matter last week.
He flatly states that the FBI "doesn't expect to find anything useful" on the phone but that they figure this is the perfect case to push the matter with the courts. Solely because the terrorism boogeyman sways the public.
Really sad that what we all thought to be true is.
He flatly states that the FBI "doesn't expect to find anything useful" on the phone but that they figure this is the perfect case to push the matter with the courts. Solely because the terrorism boogeyman sways the public.
Really sad that what we all thought to be true is.
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