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Surprise Surprise - FBI wants Apple to unlock additional phones

Posted on 2/24/16 at 1:45 am
Posted by Spirit of Dunson
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 1:45 am
Article here
But I thought this was an isolated incident of extreme national security importance.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 1:46 am
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 2:06 am to


Posted by Theoldgraycoat
Antarctica
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 2:08 am to
Your government will take care of you.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65974 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 2:35 am to

I know you're reading, FBI... You suck.


Tag... knock if you dare..
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 2:41 am to
I currently have and use an iPhone. That may be coming to a quick end.
Posted by YouAre8Up
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 7:26 am to
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 7:55 am to
They've been unlocking phones for the FBI and NSA for awhile. They just dont want this known to the public.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85148 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 7:57 am to
Apples stance on this is still so puzzling. Not wanting to help is one thing, but why won't they come out and say whether they can or cannot actually do it?

When the phones are revealed and sold, Apple boast about its robust encryption to the point that they say even Apple cannot get into the phone once it is shipped. If that is the case, why not fall back on that defense? If it isn't the case, and Apple can indeed override security features that lets the FBI brute force the phone, then why say it is impenetrable?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85148 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:00 am to
On another note, if, and that is a big if, the phone can be accessed with Apple's help, I don't understand the backlash if the FBI has a warrant.

Creating and implementing a backdoor for the FBI to access going forward is a problem. Helping the FBI access the phones when they have a warrant seems to be a no brainer, assuming they have a warrant.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:02 am to
I am shocked the government would try to take advantage of it's own citizens by breaking the law. Simply shocked.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:49 am to
Americans didn't learn shite from the Snowden debacle
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28226 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:02 am to
WTF would I be doing with my phone,computer,tablet,that I am afraid for the FBI to look at?Nothing.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20942 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:38 am to
Maybe there's a silver lining to all of this. Perhaps this will cause a movement to go back to your dummy cell phones with no camera, and no internet, and the govt/hackers will have a whole lot less to go off of.

High tech security doesn't always beat low tech.
Posted by Rhio
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:42 am to
Unlocking nine more phones because the government "might" catch one of the bad guys.

It's amazing what some of you small-government types on this board are ok with.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:44 am to
quote:

But I thought this was an isolated incident
nah, there isn't some tool that can be used any time they want to get in. What is used in San berdino can't be used again. And did you forget that Apple has done this for them before?


Guess what? the FBI has multiple filings for search warrants out right now
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 11:45 am
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 1:07 pm to
LINK

This article from last summer lays out what the FBI actually wants, the current pissing match with Apple is just a small part.

"Apple and Google are helping terrorism by offering users encrypted communications, a senior FBI official has told the House Homeland Security Committee in Congress, and US law enforcement needs to stop them from doing it.

As far as the FBI is concerned, private companies must "build technological solutions to prevent encryption above all else," the Washington Post reports Steinbach as saying."
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:05 pm to
The government can do whatever it wants because of the vague and open ended nature of the Constitution
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35466 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 7:43 am to
It's 4 fricking numbers, how hard could it be to get into the phone?
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
9400 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:18 pm to
Those of us with nothing to hid should be okay. Right?
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18929 posts
Posted on 3/5/16 at 9:38 am to
Bumping this thread since I had a chance to talk to a close friend in federal law enforcement stationed in DC who sat in on congressional hearings on this matter last week.

He flatly states that the FBI "doesn't expect to find anything useful" on the phone but that they figure this is the perfect case to push the matter with the courts. Solely because the terrorism boogeyman sways the public.

Really sad that what we all thought to be true is.
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