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Nightline Columbine "Special"
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:59 pm
Watching this, this kid's mother keeps saying how she missed "signs" from him, including the boys experimenting with a pipe bomb and then a 10-page list of threats found online, and the mother dug through his room when he was out and didn't see anything out of the ordinary.
How would you handle this? Does it ever concern you, both if/when it will happen again? Or rather if a relative could do such a thing?
How would you handle this? Does it ever concern you, both if/when it will happen again? Or rather if a relative could do such a thing?
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Posted on 2/13/16 at 12:04 am to Slinky
In vast majority of most cases, kids exude early warning signs of aggression. As for worrying abt if/when it'll happen again somewhere, that does no good. I can't control it so why worry abt it. I keep my revolver in my car at all times even on campus and I carry it on me everywhere I'm legally able to. That's abt all I can do to prepare myself.
Posted on 2/13/16 at 1:37 am to Slinky
If it will happen again? IF?
Posted on 2/13/16 at 1:49 am to Slinky
These dudes had a weapon collection large enough to outfit a decent militia. There's 0% chance anyone with a half working brain could not notice that if they "dug around." She's full of shite.
Posted on 2/13/16 at 2:11 am to Tuscaloosa
She said on the special that she didn't go in his room after his junior year because she didn't want to violate his privacy. She said she thought she was doing the right thing. OP doesn't have his facts straight.
Posted on 2/13/16 at 3:18 am to lsuwontonwrap
And therein lies the problem. If you live under my roof... you have no privacy. Not blaming her for what the kid did, but she isn't getting the Parent of the Year award either.
Posted on 2/13/16 at 3:34 am to lsuwontonwrap
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because she didn't want to violate his privacy.
There is no right to privacy if a person is under 18 and living in my house. She surely wasn't parenting very well.
Posted on 2/13/16 at 4:29 am to Slinky
Sometimes you don't see what you don't want to.
In hindsight I am sure she wishes now she would have ransacked his room during that year.
Hard to believe a website with all of those threats wasn't enough for the cops to make a move back then. I bet it is enough now.
Wonder how the girl that bought them some of the guns feels now.
Posted on 2/13/16 at 5:24 am to Slinky
Don't forget that he was in trouble with the police, socially withdrawn, etc.
I am not saying any parent could have predicted that the massacre was going to happen, just that she and his father were idiots for giving a dependent "privacy".
If you are a dependent child, you are not mature enough to handle important things like privacy.
I am not saying any parent could have predicted that the massacre was going to happen, just that she and his father were idiots for giving a dependent "privacy".
If you are a dependent child, you are not mature enough to handle important things like privacy.
Posted on 2/13/16 at 5:32 am to Slinky
Where was the father during all of this?
If he was not in the picture, then he has blood on his hands.
If he was not in the picture, then he has blood on his hands.
Posted on 2/13/16 at 5:38 am to Slinky
I'm not going to blame any parent for this.
What are parents supposed to do? Take every gun away from every child? Do you ask your nearly adult child,"Are you planning on shooting up your school today, son?"
These guys ( not using their names) didn't have what you call a rap sheet.
What are parents supposed to do? Take every gun away from every child? Do you ask your nearly adult child,"Are you planning on shooting up your school today, son?"
These guys ( not using their names) didn't have what you call a rap sheet.
Posted on 2/13/16 at 7:51 am to Tuscaloosa
Cops could have done more than what they did. They could have prevented it. Human error not guns allows these massacres to occur. Look at all these killings, people are afraid to do anything or don't beforehand until after the fact. Lol at these no privacy posts. You think that will stop your kid from hiding shite? They'll just not tell you anything or hide it. Hell my parents thought like you so I never said anything and found better ways to sneak around or hide what didn't want them to find. Communication/observation is what caused this mom's lack of awareness not lack of authoritarian rules
This post was edited on 2/13/16 at 7:58 am
Posted on 2/13/16 at 7:53 am to Slinky
It concerns me. I think it probably concerns most parents.
I just hope that when it does happen again, there's a responsible and brave adult who is CC and able to respond in time.
I just hope that when it does happen again, there's a responsible and brave adult who is CC and able to respond in time.
Posted on 2/13/16 at 8:07 am to AndyCBR
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Sometimes you don't see what you don't want to.
I think you have it the nail on the head.
Posted on 2/13/16 at 8:22 am to Redbone
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There is no right to privacy if a person is under 18 and living in my house. She surely wasn't parenting very well
That can backfire on you, too. Privacy with a minor is more of a moving target, really.
Posted on 2/13/16 at 9:03 am to East Coast Band
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What are parents supposed to do? Take every gun away from every child? Do you ask your nearly adult child,"Are you planning on shooting up your school today, son?"
Exactly. Even if your kid's withdrawn and a weirdo, that doesn't mean you're thinking he's going to commit mass murder.
Posted on 2/13/16 at 9:39 am to Slinky
So much 20/20 hindsight and ignorance in this thread. All these woulda-coulda-shouldas by those that know far less about this event than they should.
Posted on 2/13/16 at 10:05 am to Clames
People trying to pretend like they know how to handle the situation is kind of funny. Mental health problems are so easy for parents to navigate.
I'm sure here taking the lock of his door would have stopped everything. I'd blame the cops more than the parents dude they received like 20 warning about those kids and pretty much just ignored it.
I'm sure here taking the lock of his door would have stopped everything. I'd blame the cops more than the parents dude they received like 20 warning about those kids and pretty much just ignored it.
This post was edited on 2/13/16 at 10:07 am
Posted on 2/13/16 at 3:46 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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People trying to pretend like they know how to handle the situation is kind of funny. Mental health problems are so easy for parents to navigate. I'm sure here taking the lock of his door would have stopped everything. I'd blame the cops more than the parents dude they received like 20 warning about those kids and pretty much just ignored it.
Maybe the parents could have paid attention to the hours and hours of uninvolved time they had with their teen. They spent hours making violent movies, collecting weapons, writing angry journals, and shooting guns in the woods.
Why does it seem so unrealistic to know where your kids are and who they spend time with? My parents made every friend I had spend time with my family (out to eat, hang out on weekends,etc).
Any concerned parent that is involved with their child would be able to pick up on sociopathic tendencies.
Posted on 2/13/16 at 3:54 pm to Slinky
The parents of the shooters have hell on earth for the rest of their lives.
I read some of the interview with Klebold's mother. Sad.
As fun of a fact that can be had in this thread:
This guy was at Columbine, seriously.
I read some of the interview with Klebold's mother. Sad.
As fun of a fact that can be had in this thread:
This guy was at Columbine, seriously.
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