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Posted on 2/10/16 at 7:19 am to
Posted by texastigerr
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 7:19 am to
Not impressed with Moffit results lately. Seems like we got pushed around pretty good the last couple of years by the heart of our schedule in the West. Even Chavis' last season the defense was pushed around. The ranking and stats for that defense two seasons ago were mostly built off of beating up the lower level OOC teams like Sam Houston State on the schedule. Wisconsin offense was not good the first game we played that year either.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 10:18 am to
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Not impressed with Moffit results lately


If Bama skipped a couple of years recruiting big defensive linemen their strength coach would seem unimpressive as well.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 4:13 pm to
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Not impressed with Moffit results lately. Seems like we got pushed around pretty good the last couple of years by the heart of our schedule in the West. Even Chavis' last season the defense was pushed around. The ranking and stats for that defense two seasons ago were mostly built off of beating up the lower level OOC teams like Sam Houston State on the schedule. Wisconsin offense was not good the first game we played that year either.


I have been wondering the same here but I came to the conclusion you can only hang so much meat on a frame. I think we have gotten most of that out of the guys we have developed but recently we have been playing guys as frosh and sophs who are still not physically maxed out.

I saw an article a couple of yrs back that when we played Oregon we shaved 10-15 lbs off our d-line for speed and mostly endurance and for that group it worked out well. The guys who came behind that 2011-12 group have not fared as well with it.

I see us now going back to a bigger DL with Orgeron coaching that group. As for 260 lb DE's please remember that Tyson Jackson played DE at 300 lbs. I would be happy with some Damarcus Ware types if they play like him... 6'4" 260 lbs.
Posted by DontCare
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 7:40 pm to
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Not impressed with Moffit results lately.

Here's what I think was the issue with the strength & conditioning last year: depth. Last year, the DL didn't have a lot of proven guys behind the starters. So, with the understanding that the DL would rotate fewer players for fewer downs, the starters simply needed to have the conditioning to play the max amount. Bama's DL had a lot more guys to rotate, so they could focus on strength rather than reps. With Herron's and Gilmore's progress, along with Lawrence and the other D-linemen coming in this year, Moffit may be able to focus more on brute strength. I expect to see a much more imposing DL in 2016.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 6:46 am to
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Even Chavis' last season the defense was pushed around


At the beginning of the year yes, but not after a few new guys came into their own. Minus the bullshite bowl where Chavis didn't give a care, LSU was on fire on defense the second half of the year.

You forget that our two starting DTs were first year starters. Godchaux had just came off an injury in high school and was a true freshman. Also that Welter was playing MLB.

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The ranking and stats for that defense two seasons ago were mostly built off of beating up the lower level OOC teams like Sam Houston State on the schedule


Rushing total vs LSU compared to rest of schedule
Florida - 3rd lowest
Kentucky - lowest
Ole Miss - 5th lowest
Alabama - 2nd lowest
Arkansas - 2nd lowest
TAMU - 3rd lowest

Rushing average vs LSU compared to rest of schedule
Florida - 5th lowest
Kentucky - 2nd lowest
Ole Miss - 7th lowest (only one that was middle of the pack)
Alabama - 2nd lowest
Arkansas - 2nd lowest
TAMU - 5th lowest

We went from teams having a field day vs us, to teams recording their 5th lowest or worse rushing totals and averages against us.

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Wisconsin offense was not good the first game we played that year either.


Actually Wisconsin's total offense has been in the top 25 for 3 of the last 5 years including two top 20 finishes, and their scoring offense has been in the top 30 including once at 6th.

Wisconsin's offense is pretty much been running the ball, but they usually do it at such a high and efficent level. And yes their passing game is awful.

Melvin Gordon did whatever the hell he wanted against us and everybody else minus Ohio State and yes Western Illinois in 2014. I still believe he got hurt vs LSU and played hurt the following game against that FCS school.
This post was edited on 2/11/16 at 6:52 am
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