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re: Watched Blackhawk Down again the other night

Posted on 2/4/16 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by White Roach
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 2:44 pm to
Ace:
I'm going from past memory here, and I'm certainly not trying to challenge your bonafides, but were there even any AC-130s in Somalia at the time of the "Blackhawk Down" raid?

It's been a while, but I seem to recall reading that there had been gunships there prior to this particular raid, but they had rotated out some months earlier and not replaced. It might have had something to do with a TOW missile attack on a house that Aidid was supposed to have been in that killed a bunch of civilians. (From helicopter(s), not AC-130s, but politically motivated.)

I'm pretty sure that Garrison had requested armor and add'l air support but was overruled by the Pentagon or White House. IIRC, there was a previous helicopter shootdown that killed 3 or 4 U.S. crew before the two depicted in the movie. I know there was also an earlier incident where a UN ground force was attacked and ~20 Indian (or Pakastani or Bangdelis) troops were killed.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 2:51 pm to
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but were there even any AC-130s in Somalia at the time of the "Blackhawk Down" raid?


I don't believe so.

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Garrison had requested armor and add'l air support but was overruled by the Pentagon or White House.


This is correct.

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there was a previous helicopter shootdown that killed 3 or 4 U.S. crew before the two depicted in the movie.


Yes - Aidid's men shot down a helicopter of the 101st Airborne (Airmobile) on 25 September, resulting in 3 KIA.

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I know there was also an earlier incident where a UN ground force was attacked and ~20 Indian (or Pakastani or Bangdelis) troops were killed.


On 5 June, 24 Pakistani troops (on behalf of the UN mission) were killed by (allegedly) Aidid's men.

This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 2:52 pm
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