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re: Hundreds of masked men rampage streets, beating refugee kids in revenge attack
Posted on 1/30/16 at 4:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/30/16 at 4:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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which includes racial constructs
I wouldn't call it quite a construct. It's identifiable with bone structure and genetics.
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Posted on 1/30/16 at 4:40 pm to LSUTANGERINE
quote:Who gives a shite? This thread has nothing to do with American race issues. The situation in Europe is not even close to the same issue.
I meant and edited to 64, when it was enacted. And apparently Slo does not think it exists, except in very rare cases
Posted on 1/30/16 at 4:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i don't think what exists, exactly?
Racism. You explained away every example thus far, attributing it to something else.
So, do you think racism and discrimination against black people exists, based on the fact that they are African American, black, or whatever?
Another example- Do you think the fact that black people, as a whole, get less time with doctors, spend more time in the waiting area, and generally are dismissed more that white people is racism?
Do you think that when prior histories, income, and defense attorneys are controlled and blacks receive longer sentences that whites for similar crimes (this has been documented), this is racism, or something else?
This post was edited on 1/30/16 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 1/30/16 at 4:43 pm to HempHead
there are grey areas, like how hispanics/latinos are considered white even though i'd imagine many of the indians are very asian genetically. or middle eastern people and other transitionary groups. when you get into "Brown" it can go multiple ways
Posted on 1/30/16 at 4:44 pm to Dead End
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What's your point? Racism will always exist.
I and most know it will always exist. My point was to Slo who has commented multiple times that what most would consider racism is really something else, just a want to hang our with your own people.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 4:47 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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My point was to Slo who has commented multiple times that what most would consider racism is really something else, just a want to hang our with your own people.
I mean, that's what it is, isn't it? Preference for your own?
Posted on 1/30/16 at 4:50 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Racism.
but what does it mean?
the contemporary definition of racism is essentially a racial bias by a dominant group against a marginalized race
i don't believe in that sort of institutional and one-way "racism"
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You explained away every example thus far, attributing it to something else.
well yeah
there are 2 different major divides in America today
urban/rural
and trash/non-trash
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Do you think the fact that black people, as a whole, get less time with doctors, spend more time in the waiting area, and generally are dismissed more that white people is racism?
the same doctors? or is this a medicaid/abusing ER issue?
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Do you think that when prior histories, income, and defense attorneys are controlled and blacks receive longer sentences that whites for similar crimes
"are controlled" is a big qualifier here that likely separates the class issues i was speaking of above
people of better culture will make more money
people with more money will have better social stats across the board
now if you want to talk about pathologies of the lower class (and its culture) and why blacks are so over represented within this culture (and class, accordingly)? then that's a real discussion. that is THE discussion as far as i'm concerned
i'd imagine i'm one of the few posters in this discussion who has really been able to freely discuss this with black people (rich, poor, and even some preachers). black people are like a laboratory animal for most white liberals and a mythical creature for most republicans (esp outside of the south)
This post was edited on 1/30/16 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 1/30/16 at 4:51 pm to HempHead
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I mean, that's what it is, isn't it? Preference for your own?
That's a big part. But see my posts about court sentences. Also, housing, when the owner or developer does not even live there. There are many examples when it has nothing to do with wanting to be around your own people
Posted on 1/30/16 at 4:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the contemporary definition of racism is essentially a racial bias by a dominant group against a marginalized race
Here we go again.Posted on 1/30/16 at 4:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
Racism is such a trash term at this stage of the game.
I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment that culture and the desire to assimilate are the key factors to success.
Adapt or fail.
I'm so sick of the current state of affairs and while I don't exactly condone vigilante justice, you can expect more of this if we continue down this path we're on.
I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment that culture and the desire to assimilate are the key factors to success.
Adapt or fail.
I'm so sick of the current state of affairs and while I don't exactly condone vigilante justice, you can expect more of this if we continue down this path we're on.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 4:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the same doctors? or is this a medicaid/abusing ER issue?
Across the board doctors.
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"are controlled" is a big qualifier here that likely separates the class issues i was speaking of above
by controlled, I mean they hold those constant, as in similar prior histories, similar income etc. If you want to look at a variable, such a race, you hold other variables as constant as you can.
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people with more money will have better social stats across the board
true, But you miss my point. When both whites and blacks have decent money, blacks get harsher sentences. WHen they both have less, black people get more harsh sentences. Anyway you slice it, AS A GROUP, blacks get harsher sentences when those variables are controlled.
quote:I agree there are many pathologies i the lower class, particularly those handed down from generation to generation by social learning in the "ghetto". (white or black).
now if you want to talk about pathologies of the lower class (and its culture) and why blacks are so over represented within this culture (and class, accordingly)? then that's a real discussion. that is THE discussion as far as i'm concerned
Posted on 1/30/16 at 5:05 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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And apparently Slo does not think it exists, except in very rare cases
I'd say the modern use has damn near rendered it a useless term
Posted on 1/30/16 at 5:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Then what would you call my examples?
Posted on 1/30/16 at 6:08 pm to LSUTANGERINE
You won't like this, and it's still not right, but the reason people don't want to rent their properties to blacks is obvious. It's the same reason why, secretly, people breathe a sigh of relief when the new neighbors are white or Asian and not black or Mexican. It's not skin color. Believe it or not, few people care about skin pigmentation. It's the fact that black neighborhoods are almost always crime ridden dirty cesspools. It's just the way it is. And it is the worst for the many blacks who would keep up their property. They get lumped into that.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 6:25 pm to biglego
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You won't like this, and it's still not right, but the reason people don't want to rent their properties to blacks is obvious. It's the same reason why, secretly, people breathe a sigh of relief when the new neighbors are white or Asian and not black or Mexican. It's not skin color. Believe it or not, few people care about skin pigmentation. It's the fact that black neighborhoods are almost always crime ridden dirty cesspools. It's just the way it is. And it is the worst for the many blacks who would keep up their property. They get lumped into that.
You are indeed correct, their skin color is irrelevant, it is the cultural behaviour associated with it that matters, the few good ones pay the price for the 90% bad ones.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 6:49 pm to LSUTANGERINE
quote:You act like there aren't way more poor whites (and hispanics) in this country than there are poor blacks.
I agree there are many pathologies i the lower class, particularly those handed down from generation to generation by social learning in the "ghetto". (white or black).
Posted on 1/30/16 at 7:03 pm to blueboy
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You act like there aren't way more poor whites (and hispanics) in this country than there are poor blacks.
The tangerine does not care about facts, he only cares about his agenda.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 7:43 pm to tennvol
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The tangerine does not care about facts, he only cares about his agenda.
Its funny you say this because you just made shite up to fit your own narrative
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You are indeed correct, their skin color is irrelevant, it is the cultural behaviour associated with it that matters, the few good ones pay the price for the 90% bad ones.
I'll fix it for you. Well, because stats show that the vast majority of black people are law abiding, non violent, and employed. But you keep believing what you want. And I am quite aware that per capita black people commit more crimes. But that does not change the truth about the vast majority of black people being law abiding and non-violent.
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You are indeed correct, their skin color is irrelevant, it is the cultural behaviour associated with it that matters, the many good ones pay the price for the few bad ones.
This post was edited on 1/30/16 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 1/30/16 at 7:49 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Link!? 
Posted on 1/30/16 at 7:51 pm to tennvol
Why don't you check the crime stats for Detroit, Memphis, South Africa, and other places like those, where the black folks are in charge, I am sure you will explain those away somehow.
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