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re: Honest assessment of Cam Cameron
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:29 am to HarrisLetsRide
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:29 am to HarrisLetsRide
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so basically, you've proven my point
quote:So if you are right, Narcisse was scared off by "the most overrated prospect in the class," but Narcisse would not have been scared off by a less overrated prospect?
he scared off a better QB in Narcisse. And why? Because he was all in on maybe the most overrated prospect in the class in Franks. That's not really debatable, maybe you should try watching instead of being delusional and defending him.
I assume you are trying to make a rational argument.
quote:For once, you're right. You are JUST a poster. You have no idea if it makes sense to forego a 2016 QB for the CHANCE at a 2017 QB.
I'm just a poster, if he wants to go after another QB for '16 then great, but it better be a damn good one if it puts Narcisse' future here in question
quote:Has he? Seems like LSU has multiple QBs visiting and to visit in the next couple of weeks.
And AGAIN, he failed at that!!
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Basically because he ignored Haskins(a better prospect) while obsessing over Franks(who basically sucks)
So your brilliant solution is for Cameron to obsess over Narcisse and ignore 2016 QBs. You truly are completely full of shite.
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So you can frick off with calling me full of shite....CC is a clown and you're grasping at straws defending him
You whine and bitch about Cameron allegedly making a strategic choice to focus on one QB. (Which by the way, he isn't.) Yet in the same fricking post you want Cameron to make the EXACT same strategic choice for another QB in a WHOLLY different year. You want Cameron to forego ALL 2016 QBs for a 2017 QB.
Yes, your shite level is full.
You have topped out.
Your shite is now spewing all over these boards.
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:30 am to Geauxst Writer
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A lot people on this board are so anti-Les/Cam etc. they become blinded
The same could be said of the pro-Les/Cam crowd.
If you take it to attribution theory -- the LES crowd seems to have what social psychologists would call external attribution: The process of assigning the cause of behaviour to some situation or event outside a person's control rather than to some internal characteristic.
Explanation: The anti-crowd seems to think Miles is responsible for this 4 year regression. The pro-crowd will find every reason other than Miles for it.
That's really what it boils down to.
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 11:31 am
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:32 am to Salviati
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Yes, your shite level is full.
You have topped out.
Your shite is now spewing all over these boards.
At least this was entertaining.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:32 am to Salmon
Cam and Les are obsessed with not turning the ball over. Remember the Jarret Lee 'interception to the house" season (which I'm sure Les still has nightmares). I think Les and Cam by extension played too careful this year. It was working until we showed up in Tuscaloosa undefeated and ranked number 2, and until the first play of the second half against Bama which set us on a 2 and 1/2 game spiral downward. I honestly think that we are going to see more short passing and getting playmakers in space in 2016.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:36 am to HarrisLetsRide
Cam's Qb recruits/transfers:
Jennings (kept him in that class)
Harris
McMillan
Etling
McMillan is underrated and may turn up. Otherwise, that's not that impressive.
Jennings (kept him in that class)
Harris
McMillan
Etling
McMillan is underrated and may turn up. Otherwise, that's not that impressive.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:41 am to Tiger Khan
I'm a big fan of Les the man, I loved Les the coach before pick 6 apalooza changed his style, I still really like things about Les the man and coach, but how someone can't see that Cam hasn't been a resounding success here idk, and its looking like the 16 QB class will be another mark against him, I mean, it looks like the Haskins dream is on life support, he wasted very valuable time fu%&in with Franks after it was obvious he was UF bound, he neglected Shea, didn't offer Russo last week(probably as not to offend Haskins, sound familiar?) so Russo committed to Temple, Macvittie seems solid to Pitt, last year they told machine gun Kelly we didn't need him, I'm not saying crucify him but come on. I was pumped when CCC came here but hes been average at best. Kiffin has out coached Cam by a mile the past two seasons and I absolutely can't stand Kiffin.
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:50 am to chilge1
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LSU’s offense was held under 20 points for the fourth straight game. That had not happened since 1993. The Tigers, excluding a surge in their bowl game, will finish outside of the top 50 nationally in total offense for the ninth time in Miles’ 11 years as coach.
LSU is 111th nationally in passing offense. The Tigers have finished 94th or worse in that category five of the past six seasons.
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In two of his three seasons here, his offenses have averaged over 430 ypg. That has literally never happened before.
Yep seems like the offense is great
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:58 am to Topwater Trout
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In two of his three seasons here, his offenses have averaged over 430 ypg
It's never been about ypg -- it's been about balance -- or lack thereof.
[the last time LSU fielded a balanced offense 3100 passing vs 3000 rushing -- 2007]
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:01 pm to Tiger Khan
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It's never been about ypg
its funny because we have mentioned ypg in the past and they usually come back with yards per play
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:02 pm to Solo Cam
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Doesn't hurt that he had Odell Beckham, Jarvis Landry, Trai Turner, Zach Mettenberger, La'el Collins, Jeremy Hill, Vadal Alexander and Jerald Hawkins one year.
LSU isn't the only team that puts players in the NFL.
Y'all clamor about Jimbo Fisher, have you seen the talent he has had? He must suck as a coach rt? When Jimbo doesn't have an NFL qb you get seasons like 02 and 04, his time as oc under Bowden as well, and this past season.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:04 pm to Topwater Trout
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its funny because we have mentioned ypg in the past and they usually come back with yards per play ?
LSU had more yards per game than bama did. So by yalls logic, Cam > kiffin
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:04 pm to Topwater Trout
Curious, do you understand why yards per play might be a better indicator than yards per game? Can you explain?
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:09 pm to Tiger Khan
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The anti-crowd seems to think Miles is responsible for this 4 year regression. The pro-crowd will find every reason other than Miles for it.
Miles is responsible for everything, good and bad. That's it.
People are shitting on the coaches for having talent, well they didn't just show up at LSU. They were recruited and coached by Les.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:09 pm to Tiger Khan
You do realize LSU didn't regress this year right? Just making sure.
BTW, I was ready for miles to move on...so your theory isn't accurate with me. At the same time, I'm not going overboard on how bad miles is. His accomplishments clearly prove that this sentiment is just plain ignorance.
Whether you like it or not, LSU trended up this year and that trend line appears to have some Viagra in it going into 16. That's what a reasonably intelligent individual would conclude.
BTW, I was ready for miles to move on...so your theory isn't accurate with me. At the same time, I'm not going overboard on how bad miles is. His accomplishments clearly prove that this sentiment is just plain ignorance.
Whether you like it or not, LSU trended up this year and that trend line appears to have some Viagra in it going into 16. That's what a reasonably intelligent individual would conclude.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:14 pm to HarrisLetsRide
I think will proper development Harris can be a great qb, I think a fire needs to be lit under cc and Les (hopefully already has)Yes they can be great but a hunger needs to be there- if not retire. Brandon has been brilliant at times and needs to be developed more, Yes we do need to develop more passing -not only for recruiting but to make the run more effective, need to swap out ol and dl line like premier colleges do during game, I think the team needs to have the mentality that they own the field and tha game missing for some time, And catch the ball. They are too talented already and with the recruits we have stupid crazy too talented not to preform at the highest level
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:17 pm to dgnx6
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When Jimbo doesn't have an NFL qb you get seasons like 02 and 04,
Yet he seems to consistently HAVE NFL QB's. He's had Russell, Winston, Manuel, and Ponder all become 1st round draft picks.
Thats 4 1st round QB's in 10 years....pretty damn impressive.
Russell-2004/2005
2007-Drew Weatherford (not NFL)
Ponder-2008/2009/2010
Manuel-2010/2011/2012
Winston-2013/2014
And I would say this year he didnt have an NFL QB, and Fla St. went 10-3....not too shabby.
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:18 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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Whether you like it or not, LSU trended up this year
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That's what a reasonably intelligent individual would conclude.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:20 pm to Topwater Trout
yards per play or by game will reflect each other as there is a correlation, however we should diversify or passing and running attack based on the other teams strength how about ppg as in 50 or so with the mighty Aranda in it should be awesome make this our year 
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:23 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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Tigerinthehollow
You know, I like you. You remind me of:
I tell you what -- if you can make 1 non-emotional rant post -- I'll try to respond respectfully.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 12:51 pm to easy money
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Cam's Qb recruits/transfers:
Jennings (kept him in that class)
Harris
McMillan
Etling
McMillan is underrated and may turn up. Otherwise, that's not that impressive.
Danny Etling out of high school was #9 nationally at his position and a 4-star QB according to rivals (247 had him at #17).
Brandon Harris was the #5 dual-threat and a 4-star QB according to rivals (247 had him at #3)
That's pretty impressive.
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 12:55 pm
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