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But SMAWs and AT-4's will do the trick against em. Assuming they aren't right on top of you. And you gotta remember, the gunners on the machine guns are specifically trained to have "accuracy by volume" they're putting a shitload of rounds on that target. A lot of the time they do stop the driver.

We sent about 5,000 of those recently which was one of the reasons they were able to take back Ramadi. They didn't have them in first fall of Ramadi and Mosul. I would imagine machine gunners many times do stop them. I think its just having to deal with armored suicide bombers coming at you from all angles, many different vehicles at a time all throughout the day that gave the army issues. Plus poor command, from several accounts though, many Iraqi soldiers wanted to stay and fight, the head guys were the one's that called for retreat.

Also, my in-law that helped train over there said in many cases, their regular foot soldiers were better trained then some of their commanders, who were only commanders b/c they had been in the army longer but never had any real training.

Saying all that, I understand the U.S. army was able to defeat them dealing with suicide bombers and IED's and such. Obviously, big difference between our military and Iraq. We are the best, and they are, well, nowhere close.

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Posted by windshieldman

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Posted on 1/16/16 at 8:24 am to windshieldman

I figured some military guys would read this thread and I just wanna say thank you. I know sometimes this board acts like military guys and gals get thanked too much and such, yes, I've read many threads on that. I work alongside many veterans and old friends of mine that fought in Iraq or Afghanistan. None of them brag about it and hardly ever even talk about it unless you ask them. Even the one's who were in military but never fought, they don't try to act like they did or makeup war stories like so many people make remarks saying they do. To the guys that did fight over there, I can't imagine the horror of not knowing who is enemy and who isn't, is that coke bottle a bomb or not, etc.

Pretty crazy how our military went thousands of miles away, in the ME, with so many people against the war in Iraq, and still put up with all the turmoil in a country where many people didn't want them there, and kicked arse. Politics aside, we are lucky to live in a country like ours. I hope we never lose another soldier in the middle east, or yet anywhere.

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