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re: Cashier at store told me one guy has spent $4000 on Powerball
Posted on 1/12/16 at 10:06 pm to slackster
Posted on 1/12/16 at 10:06 pm to slackster
quote:I've learned today that a lot of people don't understand probability whatsoever.
Pray tell?
I even got into a debate with my wife about it tonight.
Recently my sister-in-law found out she was having twins, and her husband, an engineer, said, "there is a 2/3 chance of having a boy because there are three scenarios." I tried to explain that it's actually 3/4 (assuming 50/50 for each child), and he still looked unconvinced.
In other words, even quantitatively inclined individuals have trouble with the logic of probability.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 10:52 pm to buckeye_vol
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Recently my sister-in-law found out she was having twins, and her husband, an engineer, said, "there is a 2/3 chance of having a boy because there are three scenarios." I tried to explain that it's actually 3/4 (assuming 50/50 for each child), and he still looked unconvinced.
Telling when order matters and when it doesn't can be subtle, though it really isn't here. An engineer ought to have been exposed to truth tables, which is the way to think about the problem. I'd be interested to hear how the 288'ers in this thread think about the lottery problem.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 10:56 pm to buckeye_vol
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Recently my sister-in-law found out she was having twins, and her husband, an engineer, said, "there is a 2/3 chance of having a boy because there are three scenarios." I tried to explain that it's actually 3/4 (assuming 50/50 for each child), and he still looked unconvinced.
Identical boys
Identical girls
Fraternal Boys
Fraternal Girls
Fraternal girl/boy
Identical boy/girl
4/6 = 2/3
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:46 am to buckeye_vol
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I've learned today that a lot of people don't understand probability whatsoever.
I'm genuinely confused as to what the hell has happened in this thread. I don't believe I've posted a single thing that was mathematically incorrect, right?
Posted on 1/13/16 at 1:02 am to buckeye_vol
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In other words, even quantitatively inclined individuals have trouble with the logic of probability.
That is understandable when you consider how many people, even those with PhDs in mathematics, were stumped by the original Monty Hall problem.
Probability is difficult because it often goes against intuition and sometimes even against logic.
The twin deal is a perfect example. Logically you would deduce that there are 3 scenarios - BB, boy and girl, or GG. However, mathematically there are 4 scenarios because you can create an order for the twins. BG and GB are not the same with regard to probability as they are two distinct outcomes.
I think it is often easier in that situation to explain it using BB or GG as your basis - meaning it may be easier to explain that there is a 25% chance of having two girls, so obviously there is a 75% chance of having at least one boy.
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