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re: I just finished The Empire Strikes Back...there's nothing in the prequels...

Posted on 12/30/15 at 11:59 pm to
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/30/15 at 11:59 pm to
I am the outlier but I don't find it to be particularly impressive. My favorite things about Star Wars are:

1. Lightsabers
2. Lore/The universe

These things are both severely lacking in the originals. In fact, if you take away all the supposedly useless knowledge that we gained from the prequels and just look at the OT, we know pretty much jack shite about anything in the Star Wars universe. We know very little alien species, and hardly anything about the ones we do know. We know tons of planet names but nothing about them. We don't understand any of the space travel stuff, nothing about the force besides some tiny tidbits from Yoda, nothing about lightsabers, nothing about any governments or way of life... Etc... You can go on with this. Lucas tried to pack a lot of this into the prequels and it made it extremely watered down and terrible. I get that. But that's just what I like the most: IMO it's what make Star Wars unique. If you just have tons of space battles with very little force usage and almost no lightsabers (I can't believe people defend any of rhe saber fights in the OT: they all suck major balls), you might as well just watch Star Trek because other than these things, it does the rest better.

I think TESB is a fine film, and I adore Star Wars so it's up there for me, but it doesn't do what I personally like in Star Wars so it's not even among my top 3 in the series (ROTS, ROTJ, TFA).
Posted by JinFL
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Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 12/31/15 at 12:21 am to
As I said in another thread. 5,4,7,6,3,2,1
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109121 posts
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:22 am to
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1. Lightsabers



They're glowing cool swords. Who gives a shite? If the character that is holding it I don't give a damn about, I have no reason to care about the scene.

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2. Lore/The universe



Well, that's retarded, because I'd argue that the Empire Strikes Back gives you the most lore out of the 7 films. Yoda is a dispensary of information on the lore of Star Wars.

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These things are both severely lacking in the originals. In fact, if you take away all the supposedly useless knowledge that we gained from the prequels and just look at the OT, we know pretty much jack shite about anything in the Star Wars universe. We know very little alien species, and hardly anything about the ones we do know.


bullshite. You find out more about the Star Wars universe in the Cantina scene than you do about anything in the prequels. We already knew the Senate existed and we already knew the Jedi Order existed. What else did we find out? That the Force is microscopic bacteria and Anakin was tricked by the Emperor in the name of love instead of actually being seduced by the Dark Side? Also Anakin and Obi Wan did really nothing but yell at each other, so there's that too.

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We know tons of planet names but nothing about them. We don't understand any of the space travel stuff, nothing about the force besides some tiny tidbits from Yoda, nothing about lightsabers, nothing about any governments or way of life... Etc... You can go on with this. Lucas tried to pack a lot of this into the prequels and it made it extremely watered down and terrible. I get that. But that's just what I like the most: IMO it's what make Star Wars unique. If you just have tons of space battles with very little force usage and almost no lightsabers (I can't believe people defend any of rhe saber fights in the OT: they all suck major balls), you might as well just watch Star Trek because other than these things, it does the rest better.


This should be an appropriate response to all your garbage points: LINK

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I think TESB is a fine film, and I adore Star Wars so it's up there for me, but it doesn't do what I personally like in Star Wars so it's not even among my top 3 in the series (ROTS, ROTJ, TFA).



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