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Posted on 12/18/15 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by hairydude
Hot Springs AR
Member since Nov 2008
141 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 4:00 pm to
Spot on assessment. You can't make chicken salad with chicken shite. The players do not match the scheme. They neither have it physically, nor mentally--or both.

Golden State runs this system to near-perfection. Yes, they are that good. Not anyone can run it and attain the same results. It must be exciting as a player to run such a scheme, because the defense loses every time and is unstoppable when shots are going down. But players still need to handle what they are being asked to do in order to succeed. Gentry's offense is a whole another level of difficulty, if the truth can be told.

Let's not fault Demps and Gentry too quickly. You never know with a new group what the might do when given a new challenge. They rolled the dice. It didn't work out. We can expect some player transactions if either the player rejects the change or is ill equipped to meet demands of change. Or administrative heads to roll. I hope again our organization does not become complacent. Still like the gamble. To win a c-ship you gotta be elite at something...
Posted by sma19
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2011
335 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 5:19 pm to
Y'all are being quick to say that it's not gonna work.

You have to remember that they didn't have key peices during training camp and throughout the first part of the season they were trying to incorporate and teach a brand new system to guys as they came back from injury. This takes time. Old habits are a hard a thing to break, yes we might not have the highest iq guys on our roster but even the kids in remedial math eventually get it.

Tyreke still doesn't have his legs under him, I see him get winded all the time and you need to be in top shape to run this way. Eric is the best we've seen him and the defense is showing signs of improvement over the past 3 games. Asik actually hustled last game (he's still awful offensively) but I can tolerate almost any player as long as there obviously giving it everything out there. That's why I liked Lance Thomas and Lou Admunson when they were here.

Gentry needs time to figure out his rotations too. He keeps getting new peices to the puzzle and he's trying different things till it works. Golden states lineup off death wasn't built in a day.

We have a bad start to this year, but if we aren't looking like we can pull off this system by the all star break then I'll be worried. I don't think there's enough proof until then.
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 6:57 pm to
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Let's not fault Demps and Gentry too quickly

Can't blame Gentry for trying to advance his career.

Demps on the other hand is fully to blame for firing a coach who wanted a say on player personnel, hiring a beta who won't challenge him, and a beta with a long and established record as a loser. He hired the career loser despite several proven winners being available at the time the hire was made.

He could have hired a better coach, but hiring somebody who would defer to him was the bigger priority.

Demps got his yes man, and we got a 7-18 team through 25 games as a result.
This post was edited on 12/18/15 at 6:59 pm
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