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re: What in the hell was Larry Fedora doing?

Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:12 am to
Posted by TheMightyTerrier
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:12 am to
Conventional wisdom says to wait until the last possible moment to chase points. By continuing go kick XPs he guaranteed he would have a one score game. If he went for two and failed on the last TD, he would be down by 9 and it's a two score game.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:47 am to
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Conventional wisdom says to wait until the last possible moment to chase points. By continuing go kick XPs he guaranteed he would have a one score game. If he went for two and failed on the last TD, he would be down by 9 and it's a two score game.

wait, what? Logic would dictate the opposite.

I'll preface this by stating it probably didn't matter much in last night's specific examples cause UNC scored with like 1 minute left and kicked the extra point to go down 8.

But let's assume there was 6-7 minutes left, how in the world does conventional wisdom dictate on going for 2 later? The end result of that is often times being down 8,playing like you're down 1 possession when in reality you're more than 50% likely to be down 2 possessions. Since you play like you're down 1 possession, you score very late, miss the 2pt conversion and now you don't have enough time to make up for it.

If you're down 15 with 5-10 minutes to play, you go for 2 on the 1st TD so you can obtain more information earlier and you know for certain whether you're down 7 or 9, so you know if you need to rush things if you're down 9, or you can be a bit more relaxed in your approach down 7.

Posted by arobbi3
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 8:53 am to
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Conventional wisdom says to wait until the last possible moment to chase points. By continuing go kick XPs he guaranteed he would have a one score game. If he went for two and failed on the last TD, he would be down
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Ding Ding Ding, We have a winner. You can't go for two early and go down by two scores. Any chance you have ends with a failed attempt. Why not wait until the last moment?
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30276 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 9:05 am to
Conventional wisdom says to wait until the last possible moment to chase points.

Conventional wisdom is often wrong.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/6/15 at 9:21 am to
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Conventional wisdom says to wait until the last possible moment to chase points. By continuing go kick XPs he guaranteed he would have a one score game. If he went for two and failed on the last TD, he would be down by 9 and it's a two score game.

Right. With the benefit of hindsight, we're talking about a game that's in the third quarter, and 68 points have been scored. For a near ping pong match like this, you don't chase points like that just yet. As it turns out, Fedora needed his defense to hold Clemson to a field goal on one of their scoring drives, and they did just that, making it a 15-point game, setting up your two-possession comeback just fine if it's to happen.

Now, I could understand going for two a little more in say, last nights B1GCG. If it's 17-6 in the third quarter, and you score making it 17-12, maybe you go for two there because you probably aren't going to be that close to the end zone again, and trusting your defense to tighten up is a better gamble in this game than in last night's ACCCG.

This all reminds me of the LSU Ole Miss game in 2010. End 3rd, Ole Miss leads 24-23.

LSU scores, making it 24-29, goes for two, fails.
Ole Miss scores, making it 30-29, goes for two, fails.
LSU scores, making it 30-35, goes for two, fails.
Ole Miss scores, making it 36-35, goes for two, fails.
LSU scores, making it 36-41, goes for two, converts, wins 36-43.
This post was edited on 12/6/15 at 9:22 am
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