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Spinoff: How did Norm not get to host "The Late, Late Show"?

Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:17 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:17 pm
I've come to the conclusion that Letterman wanted Norm fairly early on to take over his show once he inevitably retired. There was no bigger champion for Norm's career than Letterman. Now Norm has pissed off so many executives in Hollywood that it's nothing short of a miracle that he's still given gigs outside of stand-up.

But seriously, his only competition would have been Seth Meyers, who I'm fairly certain he'd curb stomp in the ratings. Yes Norm getting the Late Show was a long shot considering how divisive and defiant of authority he is, but in this day and age with a midnight slot, who cares what he would have done? Just bleep out anything inappropriate he did. The guy is in the top 5 of greatest guests ever as basically any talk show host who has had them on their show would say. He was always gold on any program he was on.

Instead they give it to someone no one knows named James Corden. Norm has been proven to be a popular draw, and I'm sure Letterman completely backed him to host the program after his own. Aside from maybe Robin Williams, has there ever been a talk show guest as good as him who has not had the opportunity to host a talk show (save his podcast of course)? Comedians and rival talk show hosts alike would be fighting to get on his show just to lib off of him being the host.

So is there any reason he didn't get it besides pissing off almost every entertainment executive? It's a no brainer that he'd get fantastic ratings and would be safe in the midnight slot. There is no other reason he didn't get that job that he would have killed. I also think this may have been a reason he was tearing up with Letterman, knowing he was chosen by him, but his own comedic genius fricked him on getting into Letterman's seat.
This post was edited on 10/27/15 at 9:22 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:21 pm to
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It's a no brainer that he'd get fantastic ratings

Based on what? I don't think he's that popular with the general public and even at a late timeslot, networks still want someone fairly safe.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112372 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:53 am to
Norm is a weird dude. Whose to say he would be interested in something like that. He doesn't seem like a guy that would want to work 5 nights a week with old material that's been done 5 times already that night on different shows
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:30 am to
I really like Norm. The best of his comedy is really really good. But he's not a workhorse IMO and doesn't have the energy to pretend to have a good time when he's not enthused about being there. That's fine as a guest when you can appear on Letterman or Stern and just kinda be funny by being a dick - but can wear thin on an audience (as Letterman sometimes did).

I completely get Letterman championing Norm because a younger Letterman had more in common with Norm than just about anyone else I can think of - his biting sense of humor tinged with mean and sense of the ridiculousness of his industry is not just a pretense. It would also be about as close as you'd like to come to imitating the original "Late Night with David Letterman" sensibility of the 80s. But executives hate it and audiences often go for softer fare (as Norm has seen with prior efforts he was given).
Posted by Indigold
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 9:51 am to
Classic OML thread.

"Here's a topic and what I think about it; let's discuss..... Just kidding."
Posted by Thurber
NWLA
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:47 pm to
I like Norm too, but I'm not sure the general public feels that way
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:07 pm to
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Spinoff: How did Norm not get to host "The Late, Late Show"?


You answered your question in the first paragraph.

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Norm has pissed off so many executives in Hollywood that it's nothing short of a miracle that he's still given gigs outside of stand-up.

Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36108 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:38 pm to
Some points:

Norm is amazing but there's no way that he could maintain a talk show for more than a couple of years. And based on his track record, his fans are many but don't show up to watch his shows.

Meyers isn't the best ever, but he's second best in late night right now (IMHO). He's the closest thing that we have to Letterman's original Late Night show. Every other show is a loud, bright, over-produced parody of what Letterman was doing. (Louder than Carson as well.)

And on the Meyers/Jenner kerfuffle... Ferguson did similar boycotts of certain celebrity fiascos. Letterman did as well. Letterman famously avoided joking about O.J. Simpson while Leno had the Dancing Ito's every night.
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