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re: in retrospect, Cars is not the shitshow the MTV Board argues

Posted on 10/7/15 at 5:08 pm to
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 5:08 pm to
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EDIT: To add, so you agree that the inclusion of these things is inane, that even outside of being logical (which we can disagree on), that there are major elements in the film that are completely silly, ridiculous, outlandish, etc. Correct? The the fundamental environment that these creatures inhabit lacks any rules or organization. Correct?



There are rules. Every living creature is some sort of vehicle. WHy do you need to know how that came to be and the evolution behind it?
This is obviously a lot more important to you than most others.
And of course the inclusion of vehicles as living creatures is silly. That's the point.

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Incorrect. Explain please?


Why does racecar need batteries to go, and why does he need to be controlled by the remote?
How does no one ever notice toys are alive, other than Sid that one time?
Why doesn't Buzz break more often, like the real Buzz does in real life?
How does Mr. Potato Head control the piece of meat just b/c his eyes are attached to it. How can Mrs. Potato Head see through the eye not attached to her? Can they see through all the eyes they have all the time? Can they control all of their attachments no matter where they are? When do they get control of new attachments given to them by their owner?
How does Woody stand up? He's made of cotton.
Why doesn't Woody's hat ever come off when he's thrown around? It's as if it's glued to his head, yet he can take it off with ease when he wants to?
How does Woody and Buzz magically appear on the side of Andy in the car, after "falling with style" through the sunroof, which no one seems to notice? Oh yeah "they must of been here the whole time"
How did Woody learn to read and write? I guess Dory taught him.
Buzz thinks he's a space ranger, even though he's seen that the other toys are toys, and acts like a toy when Andy is around.
Who gives out the toy souls? Woody gets to come to life but a ball doesn't? How do they decide who gets to talk? you have to have a mouth to talk? mouths don't produce sound.

here, read this for fun.
Pixar Theory
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37412 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 5:35 pm to
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Why does racecar need batteries to go, and why does he need to be controlled by the remote?
How does no one ever notice toys are alive, other than Sid that one time?
Why doesn't Buzz break more often, like the real Buzz does in real life?
How does Mr. Potato Head control the piece of meat just b/c his eyes are attached to it. How can Mrs. Potato Head see through the eye not attached to her? Can they see through all the eyes they have all the time? Can they control all of their attachments no matter where they are? When do they get control of new attachments given to them by their owner?
How does Woody stand up? He's made of cotton.
Why doesn't Woody's hat ever come off when he's thrown around? It's as if it's glued to his head, yet he can take it off with ease when he wants to?
How does Woody and Buzz magically appear on the side of Andy in the car, after "falling with style" through the sunroof, which no one seems to notice? Oh yeah "they must of been here the whole time"
How did Woody learn to read and write? I guess Dory taught him.
Buzz thinks he's a space ranger, even though he's seen that the other toys are toys, and acts like a toy when Andy is around.
Who gives out the toy souls? Woody gets to come to life but a ball doesn't? How do they decide who gets to talk? you have to have a mouth to talk? mouths don't produce sound.


The answer to every one of these is simple: Because they are toys and that's how I believe they worked as a kid.

I'll use the same story I referenced early to reiterate. When kids play with a Mr. Potato Head, they don't think they are removing the eyes of some disembodied Potato. They believe they are rearranging his face and his face still works. His eyes still see, his mouth still moves.It's still "him."

He's still believable in that sense. Mr. Potato Head didn't become the meat, it's just that his limbs were attached to something that allowed him to manipulate. The limbs are still Mr. Potato Head and they still work when not attached (if not, then he's one of the most disturbing toys ever built).

That's why Toy Story doesn't need much explaining even as an adult, because we all lived that stuff. The Toy Story world makes sense specifically because the Toy Story world is built on the childhood beliefs and dreams we all had. Who didn't believe that their toys were in some way alive? That's the core of the movie, and that's precisely why it works.

And there's a big difference. Even as a kid, I never thought my Hot Wheels were alive, they just had really tiny drivers. (And Cars isn't about Toys. That's a pretty big distinction.)


On that note, here's another alternative Cars story:

Why not make it about "Toy Cars," rather than Cars? Why not play up a "Toy Car world," in that sense, there's more room for all of the silliness. Because there are literally Car Cows, Car Bugs (thanks transformers).
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 5:53 pm
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