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re: in retrospect, Cars is not the shitshow the MTV Board argues

Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:56 am to
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:56 am to
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good thing no kid would ever take it seriously, or even would have any idea of what you just said.


You don't give kids enough credit. They use everything they intake to start interpreting the world. And yes this includes entertainment.

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But toys coming to life driving themselves down the street, or fish talking, or a house floating on ballons has realistic consistency and logic.


Actually yes. They were both logical and consistent. They had rules and followed them. They created worlds that actually allowed those things to happen.

For instance, there's no reason to have "Cow Cars." None. They did it because it's cute and provided a laugh. Not because the story needed it or because "the world's rules would require it." Why did they need a cow-like creature?

On the other hand, the fact that Toys were coming alive and Mr. Potato head could be a "living thing" despite they ability to essentially break himself, made complete sense. That's what Mr. Potato Head is. That's probably how kids "see" him when they play with him in real life. There's a logic there that "Cow Cars," lack.

ETA: Look, this is nearly an impossible discussion to have, because this mostly revolves around psychology, meaning, myth, logic, etc. Extremely subjective stuff. Which to me are critical to children and development. If Cars/Cars 2 were meant to be Baby Einsteins of pretty color and lights to entertain kids. That's fine. That's essentially what they should be. But they aren't. Nor are they taken that way.

If you want me to say that Cars has a competent story, I'll give and say it does. But that's about as far as I can go. It has a competent story. But it doesn't have a complete narrative, and it isn't "good," because of that.
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 12:02 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 12:19 pm to
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On the other hand, the fact that Toys were coming alive and Mr. Potato head could be a "living thing" despite they ability to essentially break himself, made complete sense. That's what Mr. Potato Head is. That's probably how kids "see" him when they play with him in real life. There's a logic there that "Cow Cars," lack.



so all the toys come to life but racecar still needs batteries to run? Where's the logic there? Does Woody need batteries to come to life? How can all the toys move without batteries but racecar needs batteries to move?
Dory's memory is full of inconsistencies.

Everything in the movie Cars, was a car. and the cows weren't cars, they were tractors, and they made fart noises when you "tipped" them, which is funny. Did it bother you that the plane they took to Japan wasn't just an inanimate plane?

You look for reasons to not like Cars, and give dumb examples that can easily be made for Toy Story but you choose to ignore them when watching Toy Story, which most would acknowledge is the best animated film.

As i stated before, i think the dislike for some of you is that fact that Mater is the main attraction of the movie, and some of you have a bias towards him b/c it's Larry the Cable Guy. Tom Hanks and Tim Allen sound perfect for Toy Story. Goodman and Crystal are perfect for Monsters. Larry the Cable Guy is perfect for Mater, yet some of you are to refined to sit back and enjoy that character for what it is. And as i said before, I dont' like Larry the Cable Guy.
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