re: Where do you put Rodgers in NFL and where in GB history?

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Needs a ring or two more and then it won't be a debate.

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True.

Packer fans probably couldn't care what his TD/INT ratio is if he can't take us to as many Super Bowl's as Brett Favre did or win as many championships as Bart Starr did, he'll be just another Packer great. Not the greatest.

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Needs a ring or two more and then it won't be a debate.

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That's fine, and yes, as a Green Bay-born diehard Packer fan, I know as well as anyone it's all about the Lombardi trophy. But I feel like that's an overrated aspect to judge QBs on. Average QBs have won a super bowl (Trent Dilfer, Joe Flacco come to mind), but amazing QBs like Rodgers also only have one or none. Simple fact is that there are so many other factors that influence whether or not a team wins it all.

In the case of the Packers, it's been the shite-tastic performance of the defense. Rodgers can only do so much. In his playoff losses the defense has given up 51 (they still almost won that game), 37, 45, 23, and 28 points. Aside from maybe the 23 point effort, that's awful. Yet people will say Rodgers sucks in the playoffs (Colin Cowherd comes to mind as one).