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The Great SEC Officiating Conspiracy

Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:55 pm
Posted by EffYouSeeKay
Manhattan
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:55 pm
SIAP--searched and found nothing.

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Since 2012, LSU has been flagged more times in a game than its opponent by a margin of 24-12 (6 times, the flags were even). By penalty yards, the margin in 26-14 (2 times, yards were even).

Even more stark is the number of times there has been a significant penalty advantage. LSU has been flagged at least three more times than its opponent 18 times while it has been flagged at least three less times only 5 times. An 18-5 margin is clearly massive. Looking at yardage, the margin of 30+ penalty yard games is 15-3. LSU is more likely to be flagged for 30+ more yards than its opponent than it is to have any penalty yardage at all (15-14).
Posted by okietiger
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Member since Oct 2005
40999 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:56 pm to
I'm curious what Miles' Okie lite teams commited by way of penalties.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 12:57 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 9:35 am
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 1:04 pm to
Couldn't possibly be that we just dont play with as much discipline. It's definitely a conspiracy against us.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 1:12 pm to
This was true under Saban team. His teams were highly penalized until he got to Bama

Aggresive defenses usually are

Then they went over 9 games without a holding call 1 year
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 1:18 pm
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 1:38 pm to
I wasn't surprised at these facts:

--LSU is dead last in the SEC in penalties/penalty yardage margin over the past four years, and has not had a positive margin in any of those seasons.

--When Ritter officiates our games, our penalties/penalty yardage negative margin almost TRIPLES.

--There is only one officiating crew in the SEC with which LSU has a positive penalties/penalty yardage margin.

What did surprise me, although I guess it shouldn't have, was this...

--Ritter's crew has officiated more LSU games than any other SEC crew over the last four years. Only one other crew is even in the same ballpark as far as the number of LSU games officiated.

--The ONE crew with which LSU has a positive margin has officiated fewer LSU games than any other crew over the last four years, and has not officiated any LSU game since 2013.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 2:28 pm
Posted by ndtiger
vicksburg, ms
Member since Aug 2004
8676 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 1:39 pm to
Okay.............so what is the motive?
Posted by WackyChris
Da Parish, Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
2774 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

SIAP--searched and found nothing.


thought about posting this when I read it, but I thought better of it
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68930 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 1:55 pm to
Nvm, def an interesting read.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 1:56 pm
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9275 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 3:18 pm to
I didn't walk away from the article with the same takeaways that the author did.

The author seems fixated with comparing LSU's penalties to Bama and the other schools, in order to prove or disprove an officiating bias through the lens of the rest of the SEC and Bama, in particular.

That doesn't disprove or discredit the hard data that:

1. Ritter's crew flag LSU at a greater rate than other teams.
2. Ritter's crew works more LSU games than any other crew.

This is not just about the Bama game. This is about Ritter.

The author's narrative at the conclusion is focused on the wrong topic.

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Unfortunately, this means we can't drum Tom Ritter out of the SEC for being a dirty cheater who is helping out Alabama.


No, we can drum Tom Ritter out of the SEC for disproportionately flagging LSU for some unknown reason. ASK WHY. Bama is irrelevant to this discussion.

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However, LSU fans are correct when they complain that the refs throw more flags against LSU than their opponents, and its worse for LSU than any team in the SEC.


Ritter is a direct cause of this.

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Now, it is up to you to decide whether that margin is legitimate or the product of unconscious bias. It is not, however, the product of a league wide conspiracy.



We don't need it to be a league-wide conspiracy. We need our questions to focus on RITTER.

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Really, the only thing LSU can do to stem the penalty tide is to somehow eliminate all unconscious bias against the Tigers as an undisciplined team who commits too many penalties. Good luck fighting that narrative.


WRONG. That's not the only thing we can do. We can have Ritter investigated.

The more general LSU makes its argument, the weaker it is. The more targeted we make it, the stronger it is.

The data shows Ritter flags LSU at an absurdly high rate. The data shows we pull Ritter's crew more than any other crew.

Ask why. FRAME the argument around Ritter.

One last thing: do you think Bama would put up with this shite? Do you think they wouldn't ask questions about a specific ref? Why are we so eager to run up the white flag and say we can't do anything about it?
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 3:20 pm
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