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re: I just now finished the Serial podcast
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:52 am to buckeye_vol
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:52 am to buckeye_vol
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What does the jury have to do with the facts if the case?
You mean, other than being the judge of those facts???
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Their decision is irrelevant in regards to the true guilt and innocence of a defendan
"True" guilt or innocence. One is guilty or innocentbased upon the rules evidence and the law. Whether someone "did it" or not, is an entirely different thing all together.
As for that, I have very little doubt that those who "did it" but are found not guilty FAAAAAAAR outweigh those that "didn't do it" that are found guilty.
That is something that very few attorneys I have met would disagree with, and given that no system is perfect, is a sign that our system at least has the right idea.
You'll note, I've never said one way or the other whether I think Adnan "did it" or not or whether I felt the state's case was sufficient or not.
My gripe is with people that have only a piece of the whole picture, mostly presented from one clearly biased and skilled story teller, condemning the whole process based on that presentation.
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 11:02 am to Tiger Voodoo
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mostly presented from one clearly biased and skilled story teller,
I don't really agree on this. After listening to Undisclosed, I found myself disappointed with Koenig for clearly being "overly objective" and leaving out lots of pro-Adnan facts. For instance, when she did the drive to try to recreate the state's timeline, it seemed obvious that it was still impossible, yet she presented it to Adnan as if it weren't.
She didn't even share the basic fact that Adnan did not "lend his cellphone to Jay".
Posted on 9/23/15 at 11:02 am to Tiger Voodoo
quote:But we know what their decision was, we're debating whether their decision was consistent with the TRUTH.
You mean, other than being the judge of those facts???
quote:Besides not presenting any evidence to support your belief, what does the guilty being acquitted have to do with this case?
As for that, I have very little doubt that those who "did it" but are found not guilty FAAAAAAAR outweigh those that "didn't do it" that are found guilty.
quote:But you're doing the same and dismissing the journalist, and worse yet, ignoring the facts you do have.
My gripe is with people that have only a piece of the whole picture, mostly presented from one clearly biased and skilled story teller, condemning the whole process based on that presentation
And if Koenig is a "storyteller" what is Urick? We have plenty of evidence that one of them has knowingly lied, and it's not Koenig. Yet, you put your faith in the liar's storytelling.
That says a lot about your own bias.
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