re: Official Fantastic Four Review/RT 9%(SPOILERS!!!)-(by Fox)

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The main draw of the FF is the Ben Grimm character. Prior to Logan, The Thing was the most popular of the Marvel superheroes. He was loud, powerful, and loaded with personality. He was New York City in monster form.

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i wanted to imply, but didn't want to derail the thread too much, that the X-men (not initially but eventually) took all the positives of FF4 and improved upon them, including the brooding, emotional character (with Wolvie). X-men also expanded the "space" universe a great deal as well.

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FF was also where some of the biggest events in the Marvel Silver Age took place. Galactus, Silver Surfer, Black Panther, The Inhumans... Spider-Man had intense stories that dealt with New York, but the FF were dealing on a galactic and interdimensional scale. In the Silver Age, it's where everything that was huge was happening

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yeah that's what i thought. it was the first "space" property