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re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his career

Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 2:35 pm to
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Baseball players have faced different levels of talent. Sometimes, zero common opponents.


I don't see many people comparing a SWAC player's batting average to an SEC player's and then saying the SWAC player is just as good because...stats. no, they're smart enough to recognize the wide gap in talent and frame their analysis accordingly. same can be said for college football. no one would be foolish enough to say Jarvion Franklin of Western Michigan was a better running back than Nick Chubb because he had 10 more rushing TDs and more rushing yards.

So I ask why are you using the terms "best defense" and "worst defense" when describing the teams Lee and Jefferson started against? Too many of the basis for your arguments are soaked in confirmation bias that it's impossible to have a rational conversation with you. Anyone who watched Jefferson play his last two years in Baton Rouge were highly disappointed and saw a regression of a player that once appeared to have great potential. They saw Lee go from a goat in 2008 to redemption in 2011, leading the conference in passing efficiency.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:07 pm to
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So I ask why are you using the terms "best defense" and "worst defense" when describing the teams Lee and Jefferson started against?
Because the NCAA ranked them that way.

I used the NCAA's ranking of opponents' defenses to rank opponents' defenses. Do you have a better commonly available metric?

You acknowledge that no system is perfect. You fight this issue so hard. Yet you provide no alternative at all.

The best metric I could find to determine an opponents' defensive ranking was to look at the opponents' defensive ranking.

Here is one other thing for you to consider. The defenses that Lee and Jefferson faced in the 2011 regular season were not composed solely of Western Michigans or Missouris. Both Lee and Jefferson faced SEC defenses, and both faced OOC defenses. Of course, only Lee faced an FCS school, but they both faced good and bad defenses.

And my statistical comparison includes all twelve regular season games.

My point about the three Jefferson's starts is NOT about the average of those three starts. It's about the fact that ALL three of Jefferson's starts were more productive than ALL nine of Lee's starts.

Now, if you can show me that Jefferson started against ALL three of the WORST defenses that LSU faced in 2011, THEN you will have something. And I am all ears for your argument.

Until then, I'll continue to point out that ALL of Jefferson's starts were BETTER than ALL of Lee's starts.


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Anyone who watched Jefferson play his last two years in Baton Rouge were highly disappointed and saw a regression of a player that once appeared to have great potential.
Jefferson regressed from his second to third year. That's true.


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They saw Lee go from a goat in 2008 to redemption in 2011, leading the conference in passing efficiency.
And as efficient as Lee was in the 2011 regular season, Jefferson was even MORE efficient. Jefferson had a higher efficiency number from his very first pass attempt against Florida until the end of the regular season.
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