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re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his career
Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:07 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:07 pm to lsufball19
quote:The reliability is "very low"?quote:and the reliability of that conclusion, based on the absence of enough data, is very low
His stats were worse in 2009 than in 2008.
And yet sports people make similar comparisons every hour of every day.
quote:As I have REPEATEDLY said, I considered all of Jefferson's games in 2011. The stats that I have posted include MORE than three games.quote:so three games? great
Reading is fundamental.
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In this particular case, I am using defensive ranking of the opponent to define "worst."
quote::sigh:
why did you use that? why do you feel that's an iron clad ranking of best to worst?
What would you use to rank opponents when considering the statistics of the QB?
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:19 pm to Salviati
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His stats were worse in 2009 than in 2008.
and the reliability of that conclusion, based on the absence of enough data, is very low
The reliability is "very low"?
And yet sports people make similar comparisons every hour of every day.
yes, clown. As the number of data points goes down, the variability goes WAY up.
the fact you didnt provide the 95% CIs for your little graphs is very very telling.
And yes, pantheons of intelligence are the sports talking heads. Pantheons.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 1:32 pm to Salviati
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And yet sports people make similar comparisons every hour of every day.
yes, sports people , manipulate stats and data every day for stories or to support their conclusions, regardless of how misleading or unreliable they are, case in point the QBR which you have (rightfully) discounted ITT. are you really trying to argue that sports journalism presents information in an ingenuous manner most of the time? please
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As I have REPEATEDLY said, I considered all of Jefferson's games in 2011. The stats that I have posted include MORE than three games.
did they include game that were played in December and January?
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What would you use to rank opponents when considering the statistics of the QB?
that's the thing, i wouldn't use one statistical national ranking to say who was better/worse. for instance, Oregon allowed 413 ypg in 2011. The University of Memphis allowed 343 yards pergame, the 22nd best statistical defense in the country by yards per game. Memphis went 2-10 in 2011. They played in a much weaker conference and against much weaker opponents ooc. So are you trying to say emphatically that Memphis had a "better" defense than Oregon because a statistical metric has one ranked differently? They didn't have a single common opponent. Oregon faced much more high powered offenses week in and week out.
This is what I'm talking about. You are using data that is factual. I never said you weren't. I just think the manner in which you chose to apply your data is inherently biased, however, and you pick and choose what data you want to use that best suits the point you are trying to make.
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 1:42 pm
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