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re: My Biggest Beefs With Breaking Bad

Posted on 7/7/15 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by SystemsGo
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 3:53 pm to
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How do you explain someone being able to bake something from a recipe and it not being quite as good as say their mom or the head baker at a bakery?

As said by other posters, 96% was pretty damn good and hardly different from 99%.


Thank you for this point. I think this will allow me to clarify my disagreement.

My grandmother's cheeseball was legendary. You've never tasted anything so delectable in your entire life. There was a written recipe for it, but she didn't use it. She just made it. And after she passed a while back, my mom would make one according the written recipe my grandmother hadn't looked at it in 30 year. Good, but not on the same level.

But if my grandmother had made it exactly according to the recipe, then my mom's would taste exactly the same. And then if I followed that recipe I could make one and it would be exactly the same.

Hell, I can't cook a think, but you should taste the punkin pie I make.....according to my mom's recipe. Tastes just like hers (quite delicious).

And so the question then becomes: is cooking meth more like making my grandmother's cheeseball, or more like making my mom's punkin pie. I submit that it's like the pumpkin pie. Walt had a painstakingly precise set of steps to follow. There was no spitballing. There was no playing it by ear. It was recipe, followed to the letter.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 4:02 pm to
yea we're def. at a point of agreeing to disagree.

I think Gilligan gave Walt Jr. enough of that IMO. I don't think that kid could have pulled off anything better anyway.

As someone else said he's Anthony Jr from the Sops or Glen from Mad Men.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12268 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

But if my grandmother had made it exactly according to the recipe, then my mom's would taste exactly the same. And then if I followed that recipe I could make one and it would be exactly the same.

Hell, I can't cook a think, but you should taste the punkin pie I make.....according to my mom's recipe. Tastes just like hers (quite delicious).

And so the question then becomes: is cooking meth more like making my grandmother's cheeseball, or more like making my mom's punkin pie. I submit that it's like the pumpkin pie. Walt had a painstakingly precise set of steps to follow. There was no spitballing. There was no playing it by ear. It was recipe, followed to the letter.


It's not just a simple recipe, guy. How are you not getting this? And why is it a fricking hang up? Walt, like every cook who really understands the way things react to each other and understands why they do things a certain way, could make adjustments where adjustments needed to be made. In theory, recipes are designed to get you the same product every time, but in practice, even with a detailed, thorough recipe, there are changes, small differences that occur. Walt can account for these because he's a chemist. Jesse cannot because he's not.

This is very fricking simple and I feel like now you're just trying to argue for the sake of argument rather than actually trying to change anyone's mind.

All of your "beefs" with the show are so insignificant as to be borderline trollish. King George's issue with Jr's reaction (or lack thereof), Freauxzen's suggestion of an issue with Marie's rather pointless kleptomania storyline, those are legitimate. Walter being a better "cook" than Jesse is not. It was explained numerous times in the show and has been thoroughly beaten to death by the posters in this thread.
Posted by subotic
Member since Dec 2012
2363 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 4:26 am to
"Cooking meth" is an extremely meticulous and difficult process of chemical reactions where even the slightest variance can considerably affect the final product. You must not have even the most rudimentary knowledge of chemistry to not understand this, as others have tried to explain to you. The notion that anybody can perfect such a process regardless of prior knowledge or previously guided practice is foolish. Not everyone has the diligence and attention to detail to achieve such perfection in a laboratory situation.
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