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re: Video of suspended FSU QB punching a girl

Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:23 am to
Posted by YStar
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:23 am to
Why is it that "equality" is a woman having the right to throw punches and knees to a man's groin, but God forbid the man retaliates?

Why is "equality" holding a man accountable but telling a woman she shouldn't be held accountable for her own actions.

She was drunk (probably underage) and escalated a situation the guy tried to stop by holding the hand she was threatening to hit him with. Instead of her to stop, she continued to escalate the situation by physically assaulting him.

Why the hell shouldn't she expect to receive the same measure she is giving???

It is bizarre how this country attempts to reduce men to nothing while raising women. I do not believe in hitting women, I am strongly against "Ray Rice" situations, however this is NOT one.

I truly am disgusted by how women and some men attempt to blanket every thing as being "Ray Rice". That isn't fact.

If he has to be accountable, so should she. She was the instigator and the aggressor so her punishment should be even more severe. If he is thrown off the team, she should be expelled out of the university.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:30 am to
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absolutely see the legal side of this for him and also against her. I think she should face legal action if he does. She bopped him straight in the face. That's NOT ok. And I wouldn't mind him getting off because he was hit first. But holy shite, as a much larger man, I don't think you can morally punch her in the face like that. I don't think it would have been the worst thing ever if he kept his spot on the team. But being kicked off was a perfectly fine result as well. Might not have been easy for him, but he REALLY should have walked away from that whole thing.




What on earth are you talking about?

She never "bops him straight on the face". He grabs here first and she tosses a weak punch with her off hand to get him off her.


Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:39 am to
Watch the whole video instead of one small portion. She raises her fist first. Read the previous 5 pages or so.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
41004 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:40 am to
No, man you tell people the brace is from working out, benching 400 or so.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:44 am to
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He grabs here first and she tosses a weak punch


derp you might wanna watch the entire thing
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96204 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:45 am to
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What on earth are you talking about?

She never "bops him straight on the face". He grabs here first and she tosses a weak punch with her off hand to get him off her
Umm, how bout we talk about everything that happened before that. Why is he holding her hands in that video?
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15201 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:45 am to
She instigated the entire situation. She raises her fist to threaten him. He holds her back. She continues being irrational by attempting to kick/knee him then attempting to punch him.

She assaulted him. Period. She should be held just as accountable, even more so because she instigated the situation. Even after kneeing him he didn't get physical. He got physical the moment she threw a punch.

It is not a woman's right to assault any man she sees fit. That is nonsense perpetuated by feminist and weak-willed men who think "equality" is women having way more rights then men.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36765 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:49 am to
She raised her fist but it still up against the bar. Its not like she was any threat to they guy. He had no right to grab her.

All he has to do is say "hey sorry, just trying to get in here"

Literally everyone that has been to tigerland on Thursday has been there.
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 8:50 am
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
41004 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:49 am to
This has also been a good wakeup call about people showing a portion of a video that can alter perception of what really happened.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96204 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:50 am to
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She raised her fist but it still up against the bar. Its not like she was any threat to they guy. He had not right to grab her.
If you raise your fist to someone they actually do have every single right to grab them.
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Literally everyone that has been to tigerland on Thursday has been there.
Yep. And what you do is grab her hands and say "hey sorry, just trying to get in here""
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15201 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:53 am to
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She raised her fist but it still up against the bar. Its not like she was any threat to they guy. He had no right to grab her.


Literally the stupidest thing I read on TD.

She raised her fist to threaten him. He did the SMART thing to impeded her physical attack.

She then began kneeing/kicking him and he didn't respond just held her fist.

She then said some stuff and threw a punch, which he then made a bad response by punching her back.

Then people like you want to only blame the guy as if she didn't do multiple things physically and verbally to instigate this situation.

He couldn't even say sorry, she raised her fist threatening him the minute she turned around. Once he stopped her from hitting him she lost it. She should be punished severely as well.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36765 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:55 am to
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Yep. And what you do is grab her hands and say "hey sorry, just trying to get in here""


if you want to put yourself in the position to smoke a girl in the face, yeah sure that is the right call.

Again I do not care about legality. If the charges get dropped fine, they are both out of line. Having said that he has no room in polite society, he is as scumbag.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96204 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:57 am to
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if you want to put yourself in the position to smoke a girl in the face, yeah sure that is the right call
Are you kidding me? So he should have just let her hit him to start? Look he is a scumbag for hitting her, but not for grabbing her hands to keep her from punching him. A polite male doesnt just let females hit him in the face
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:01 am to
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So he should have just let her hit him to start?


she wasn't going to hit her and it all started with him being a big ole fricking cocky bully trying to get to the bar. how come white guy next to her got to bar without managing to get himself in position to nose punch a girl in the face?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96204 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:02 am to
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she wasn't going to hit her and it all started with him being a big ole fricking cocky bully trying to get to the bar. how come white guy next to her got to bar without managing to get himself in position to nose punch a girl in the face?
Luckily for whitey mcwhite, he was at the bar before the queen bitch got there
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
167005 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:04 am to
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Luckily for whitey mcwhite, he was at the bar before the queen bitch got there




queen bitch waited her turn and so should he. he was trying to push his way through them. Dude was 100% being a dick head before she raised a fist. He wasn't some innocent fricking party that found his way into a mean 3 fingered fist in face.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36765 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:06 am to
I just watched again twice. Her fist is never in position to toss a real punch at all. Thumb is out, she clearly has a card or cash it her life threating "fist" and he pushing up everyone being that guy.


Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15201 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:06 am to
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she wasn't going to hit her and it all started with him being a big ole fricking cocky bully trying to get to the bar. how come white guy next to her got to bar without managing to get himself in position to nose punch a girl in the face?


Nope. This is the stupidest post.

You have literally never been in a bar. That is normal etiquette, to wiggle your way to the front. People were moving she moved in with more than enough space (two bigger women were occupying it) then he tried to wiggle in to the other side.

The girl tried to stop him from doing that as if she owned the bar spots (she doesn't) and then threatened him with her fist.

The fact you guys ignore this just shows the ignorance in our society today. We complain about women overseas in islamic states being oppressed........... yet what are they trying to do to men here?

You're literally saying it is okay for women to act without self-control and do as they please. That is wrong. They should be held just as accountable for their actions. It is equality after all. Right?
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15201 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:07 am to
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I just watched again twice. Her fist is never in position to toss a real punch at all. Thumb is out, she clearly has a card or cash it her life threating "fist" and he pushing up everyone being that guy.


Now you're just making stuff up. She has nothing in that fist and she balled it up threatening him.

You are a sad case.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
41004 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:11 am to
Yes a few small details are that she sees the guy coming. Then sticks her arse and leg out to try and block him out. Earlier it was said by others she just gets pushed from behind randomly. Look again. She knew he was coming and she decided to go all out bitch mode.
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