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re: HR results from the flat seam baseball

Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 2:15 pm to
I've got some stats for you...

Out of 293 teams:

160 teams increased their HR total by at least 40%
123 teams increased their total HRs by at least 11 (More than LSU)
54 teams increased their total HRs by at least 20 (The number we keep arguing)
20 teams increase their total HRs by at least 30
5 teams increased their total HRs by at least 40 (3 SEC teams: Vandy, A&M, and Florida)
52 teams decreased their HRs from last year... TOTAL

Of the teams that hit at least 40 last year...

Samford increased their total by 28
Mercer increased their total by 27
Belmont increased their total by 29

Average increase in HRs by the bottom 50 of 2014: 12.36
Average decrease in HRs by the top 50 of 2014: 0.06
Largest increase for 50 consecutive 2014 teams: 14.38 (84th thru 133rd)

Average decrease in HRs by the bottom 50 of 2015: 0.84
Average increase in HRs by the top 50 of 2015: 23.36

LSU was 19th in total HRs last year and fell to 29th overall. If we had stayed 19th, we would have had 57 HRs (right at the 40% increase).

Of the 28 teams that hit more HRs than LSU, ONLY 3 HIT FEWER THAN 20 OVER THE AMOUNT THEY HIT THE YEAR BEFORE!!! Those 3 teams??? Eastern Ky, ULL, and Dallas Baptist.


We lost only 3 players with any HRs from 2014: McMullen (7), Moore (6), Ibarra (3). That's it. 16 HRs. And you don't think we should have been able to easily replace that number while adding 20 more??? Hale hit the same amount (4). Scivicque actually hit 1 less (6) despite is great year. Same with Fraley who only hit 2. Chinea went half the year without one yet still finished with 11.

I seriously can't see how anyone with 2 brain cells seriously thinks that we should not have hit more HRs this year. And that 60 was a great guess. Right on the money of what it should have been.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 3:23 pm
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 3:25 pm to
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Average increase in HRs by the bottom 50 of 2014: 12.36
Average decrease in HRs by the top 50 of 2014: 0.06
These are the only relevant stats that you posted. You've been saying repeatedly that it's more likely for a team who hit 40 home runs last year to see an increase of 20+. They actually saw a decrease on average.
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163 teams increased their HR/G by at least 40%
And how many of those 163 teams hit 40+ home runs last year? That 40% for those 163 teams is going to come out to a numerical average increase of 9...just like I've been saying
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54 teams increased their total HRs by at least 20 (The number we keep arguing)
No, we've been arguing that it's unlikely that a team who hit 40 home runs is more likely than a team who hit 10 home runs last year to hit 20+ more home runs. How many home runs did those 54 teams hit last year? Probably a lot less than 40 judging by the fact that the top 50 teams saw an average decrease of .5%
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163 teams increased their HR/G by at least 40%
This 40% comes out to a numerical average increase of 9
quote:

123 teams increased their total HRs by at least 11 (More than LSU)
54 teams increased their total HRs by at least 20 (The number we keep arguing)
20 teams increase their total HRs by at least 30
5 teams increased their total HRs by at least 40 (3 SEC teams: Vandy, A&M, and Florida)
This skews the numerical average increase up to around 12-15
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52 teams decreased their HRs from last year... TOTAL
This returns the average increase back to 9...and does nothing to dispute what I've been saying.
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Average decrease in HRs by the bottom 50 of 2015: 0.84
Average increase in HRs by the top 50 of 2015: 23.36
Your friend already quoted this and it has nothing to do with this conversation. Obviously the top 50 teams of 2015 saw a big increase from last year, if you don't understand why that has nothing to do with the new baseballs then I'm not sure what to tell you
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LSU was 19th in total HRs last year and fell to 29th overall. If we had stayed 19th, we would have had 57 HRs (right at the 40% increase).
This is completely irrelevant that doesn't mean that the average who hit 40+ home runs saw an average of a 40% increase and that's what we're talking about.

You keep posting a bunch of random stats then rotflmao's but what exactly are you trying to argue? All of those stats agree with me when I say that a team who hits 40 home runs in 2014 isn't any more likely to increase their total by 20+. In fact, it's a LOT more unlikely. Instead of posting random stats and emoji's, why don't you come straight out and tell me why I'm wrong when I say that it's unlikely to expect a team who hit 40 home runs last year to hit more than 9 more home runs due to the new balls, and while you're at it tell me exactly what point you're trying to make.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 3:32 pm
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