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Some basic numbers about CWS game 1 losers since 1995
Posted on 6/15/15 at 11:33 am
Posted on 6/15/15 at 11:33 am
I just took a look at the last 20 seasons, 1995-2014. Take this for whatever it's worth.
Of the 40 teams to make the finals:
-30 won first two games
-5 won first, lost second
-5 lost first and advanced though loser's bracket to finals
-3 lost first game and won CWS (2010 USCe, 2006 OrSU, 1998 USCw)
-2 lost by 7+ in game 1 and made final: 2002 South Carolina lost 0-11, 2006 OrSU lost 1-11
-1 lost game 1 by 7+ and won final (Oregon State 06)
-0 were national seeds, lost first game by 7+ and advanced to final
So, not looking great. 5% of finals teams were in LSU's position and neither were national seeds (and presumably favored/seen as underachievers/choking) have made the finals in the last 20 years. Here's hoping for the best.
Of the 40 teams to make the finals:
-30 won first two games
-5 won first, lost second
-5 lost first and advanced though loser's bracket to finals
-3 lost first game and won CWS (2010 USCe, 2006 OrSU, 1998 USCw)
-2 lost by 7+ in game 1 and made final: 2002 South Carolina lost 0-11, 2006 OrSU lost 1-11
-1 lost game 1 by 7+ and won final (Oregon State 06)
-0 were national seeds, lost first game by 7+ and advanced to final
So, not looking great. 5% of finals teams were in LSU's position and neither were national seeds (and presumably favored/seen as underachievers/choking) have made the finals in the last 20 years. Here's hoping for the best.
This post was edited on 6/15/15 at 1:10 pm
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 11:48 am to ChunkyLover54
Stats started off good, but then you sort of tailed into to small of a sample size to really measure.
If you would have stopped here, that would have been good. 25% of the teams that made it to the final started off in the loser bracket. That's a pretty significant number. But as for the rest, there is too small of a sample size.
How many teams lost by 7+ in those first 2 games? What was there final results?
How many national seeds lost by 7 plus? And, how many of those national seeds that lost by 7+ lost to another national seed.
Also, how many teams that lost in the CWS had more errors in that game than any other game they played during the season? Of those teams, how many had that trend continue? IMO, there are too many factors that someone can use to argue why LSU will lose tomorrow and/or why they will win the next 6 games.
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-30 won first two games
-5 won first, lost second
-5 lost first and advanced though loser's bracket
If you would have stopped here, that would have been good. 25% of the teams that made it to the final started off in the loser bracket. That's a pretty significant number. But as for the rest, there is too small of a sample size.
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-2 lost by 7+ and made final: 2002 South Carolina lost 0-11, 2006 OrSU lost 1-11
How many teams lost by 7+ in those first 2 games? What was there final results?
quote:
-0 were national seeds, lost first game by 7+ and advanced to final
How many national seeds lost by 7 plus? And, how many of those national seeds that lost by 7+ lost to another national seed.
Also, how many teams that lost in the CWS had more errors in that game than any other game they played during the season? Of those teams, how many had that trend continue? IMO, there are too many factors that someone can use to argue why LSU will lose tomorrow and/or why they will win the next 6 games.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:27 pm to ChunkyLover54
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0 were national seeds, lost first game by 7+ and advanced to final
So LSU will set another first...
Posted on 6/15/15 at 1:00 pm to ChunkyLover54
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So, not looking great. 5% of teams in LSU's position and neither were national seeds (and presumably favored/seen as underachievers/choking) have made the finals in the last 20 years. Here's hoping for the best.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 4:25 pm to ChunkyLover54
We have to win 4.
We basically need to have Lange and Poche each get one, and then win two with the rest of the staff. To say it is unlikely is an understatement.
We will be significant underdogs in every game except this next one.
We basically need to have Lange and Poche each get one, and then win two with the rest of the staff. To say it is unlikely is an understatement.
We will be significant underdogs in every game except this next one.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 4:28 pm to ChunkyLover54
I have been curious to know all this. Thanks for taking the time to research it.
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