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re: Biker Shootout at the Twin Peaks in Waco, TX

Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:27 am to
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:27 am to
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Who said it was? Of course, I'm sure you'll admit that there are entities in the COC which likely are/involve criminal enterprises, yes?








Yes, there probably are, just like there's criminal elements in unions, lodges, faternal orgs, etc, so should the cops start arresting all these people too and charging them with participating in organized crime.






















That sounds silly but guess what, that's what happened here.
Posted by Rebelgator
Pripyat Bridge
Member since Mar 2010
39543 posts
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:31 am to
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unions


Are like bikers.

They suck.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18960 posts
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:39 am to
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just like there's criminal elements in unions, lodges, faternal orgs,


All validity of your other arguments aside, you are making quite the stretch (as in you are making a stupid comparison) when you compare the Mason's and KA fraternity to the Banditos. This from someone with no skin in the game. Dial it back three notches and you will be much more convincing.

Now if you want to talk about the LEADERSHIP of certain Union's, you may have a valid point. But the criminal element density of the Outlaw MC's well exceeds that of any Union that is 95% dues paying members with no participation or knowledge of any criminal activity. In case you can't figure it out, the criminal activities of a Union generally involve stealing FROM their members.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79457 posts
Posted on 6/8/15 at 12:14 pm to
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Yes, there probably are, just like there's criminal elements in unions, lodges, faternal orgs, etc, so should the cops start arresting all these people too and charging them with participating in organized crime.



The difference between unions, lodges and fraternal organizations is that they typically don't involve a subset that exists in part to engage in criminal activity.

Yes, in any large group there are usually some people involved in individual shady activity. But in a COC there are groups that are likely actively involved in criminal activity. Not isolated, felons carrying guns activity, but drug movement or other ongoing criminal schemes.

Your average Elks Lodge doesn't have that.
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