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re: 40 day Snapper Season! But

Posted on 4/23/15 at 8:44 am to
Posted by Barf
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 8:44 am to
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So an organization doing what its members want is a bad thing? You know that surveys are taken asking what members want, right?


I was a CCA member for nearly 12 years, I was never asked to answer a survey. Never, not once. However, if that's the case, I can't help but wonder why do they not get involved with the shallow water use issues?

Since you know more about this than I do, what's the quick explanation of the state season vs the fed season? and the 3 mile 10 mile thing? Has anyone ever actually been pinched someone from US fish and game? Theoretically what would happen if someone from the fed tried to stop you?
Posted by Elusiveporpi
Below I-10
Member since Feb 2011
2576 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 8:58 am to
I believe CCA can make more of an impact with the fishing regulations because the amount of money needed to help change a regulation is small compared to the amount needed to fix coastal erosion.
The snapper issue is a smaller population of ppl. And I think that is why they help get ppl heard.

The coastal corrosion issue is a lot larger with more than just fisherman involved, therefore is should be Louisiana in general voicing there opinion and not only fisherman.
Just my 2 cents...

Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22707 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 9:00 am to
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I was a CCA member for nearly 12 years, I was never asked to answer a survey


things have changed

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I can't help but wonder why do they not get involved with the shallow water use issues?


Like what? Public/private land use issues? Because it has been settled in the courts. There is no way to win this issue without the right fact pattern to overturn whatever your problem is. (whatever a win is depends on which side you're on)

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what's the quick explanation of the state season vs the fed season?


There is no quick explanation, but I'll try to summarize best I can. Others may have more insight. When all of this overbearing federal BS started, LA saw that the feds were basing snapper seasons on bunk science (i.e. we have snapper everywhere). Anglers were losing days, the economy losing money.

LDWF started to push back. Instituted their own season within state waters. Lobbied to extend state territorial waters out to 10 miles (previously it was 3). Feds recognize their jurisdiction as three miles out. State claims 10 miles out. Since LDWF is basically the only real enforcement arm for federal fisheries, LDWF is not enforcing snapper possession within 10 miles even though the feds claim to control that 7 mile buffer.

This is/was all part of LA's/Gulf States' attempt to get regional management of the gulf.

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Has anyone ever actually been pinched someone from US fish and game?


I'm sure someone has but see above. The LDWF mostly enforce and the feds do not have the enforcement resources.

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Theoretically what would happen if someone from the fed tried to stop you?


If you are caught with snapper out of the Federal season, you could be ticketed, boat seized, whatever.
This post was edited on 4/23/15 at 9:02 am
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29678 posts
Posted on 4/23/15 at 11:43 am to
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and the 3 mile 10 mile thing? 


We had a Coast Guard boat come up to us about 5 miles out in Grand Isle last summer. We had just arrived at the platform and were rigging up. The guy asked me what we were fishing for and I told him mangrove snapper. Said we'd have to go back to the 3 mile line to keep red snapper and left.
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Has anyone ever actually been pinched someone from US fish and game?


My neighbor in GI did by the Coast Guard (I think) last year. They were about 9 miles out and had red snapper on board. They didn't confiscate his fish but gave him either a ticket or a warning. Nothing ever came of it.

frick the feds in the arse.
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