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re: GOT Book Readers: Jon Snow question
Posted on 4/20/15 at 10:12 am to Antonio Moss
Posted on 4/20/15 at 10:12 am to Antonio Moss
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This is a good question. Rhaegar tells him before Robert kills him?
Why would Rhaegar do that or have the time to do it? Not like Rhaegar could go marching into Ned's tent without being captured or killed.
Ashara is the most likely candidate for tipping off Ned. I think there was more than 2 survivors at the Tower of Joy, since it is mentioned that THEY had to pull Ned off of Lyanna's body. Well, that implies there is someone else there besides Howland Reed. I believe that other person is Willa, Jon's supposed wet nurse and the person Edric Dayne claims is Jon's mother. She is a servant for House Dayne, and I think as soon as they realized Lyanna was pregnant, Arthur went to Starfall to fetch a wet nurse, and Ashara found out what was going on.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 10:17 am to OMLandshark
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She is a servant for House Dayne, and I think as soon as they realized Lyanna was pregnant, Arthur went to Starfall to fetch a wet nurse, and Ashara found out what was going on.
Think this is valid analysis without further evidence.
I don't think Wylla would be pulling Ned off Lyanna's body. That's food for thought, as Howland Reed is a little guy (as are all the Crannogmen) - could Reed and a woman actually physically pulled Ned away, or was this more metaphorical - they pulled "at" him and made him realize that she was dead, the baby was alive and they had to do something.
Otherwise, it does sound like someone else was spared (like Arthur Dayne, perhaps). But, there's just no clear evidence of any survivors other than Stark and Reed. We're even conjecturing about a possible baby who might be Jon Snow. Everything else is hint, innuendo and supposition.
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 10:23 am
Posted on 4/20/15 at 11:43 am to OMLandshark
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Why would Rhaegar do that or have the time to do it?
Time is unknown.
But the why is pretty obvious. GRRM constantly references the study habits of Rhaegar and how his demeanor rapidly changed after learning about "the prince that was promised."
But what if Rhaegar started to believe that he wasn't the one who was promised but rather his offspring? It's conceivable that he would get word to Ned knowing that Ned would do anything and everything to protect Lyanna's child from Robert if Rhaegar lost the war.
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