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re: GoT S5E2: "The House of Black & White" BOOK READERS

Posted on 4/19/15 at 9:17 pm to
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 9:17 pm to
Also I'm getting tired of the whole "Hero and friend going on adventure" stories. We've had Arya and The Hound, Jaime and Brienne, Catelyn and Brienne, Brienne and Pod, and now we have Jaime and Bronn.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 9:18 pm to
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Barristan is a wise mf'r.

Yeah, but his nose actually looks like a penis. Go back to the scene where he's counseling Dany. You won't not be able to see it after that.
Posted by Samso
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 9:19 pm to
Is LF taking Sansa to the Boltons?

Sansa = Jeyne Pool?

That would be a horrifying twist.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 9:20 pm to
Yeah I'm starting to think that Sansa is going to get married to Ramsay.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 9:22 pm to
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Is LF taking Sansa to the Boltons?

Sansa = Jeyne Pool?

That would be a horrifying twist.


I believe so.

I also believe it's going to be the plot device that draws Jon away from the Wall and gets him stabbed by his brothers. Stannis will still march that way I think and we may still get the pink letter (maybe Tormund goes to save Sansa instead of Mance). But I think that's the device it's going to serve.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 9:24 pm to
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Also I'm getting tired of the whole "Hero and friend going on adventure" stories. We've had Arya and The Hound, Jaime and Brienne, Catelyn and Brienne, Brienne and Pod, and now we have Jaime and Bronn.


I get that. But we also have to have some kind of device where they attempt to put Myrcella in power (I actually think this could be what Jaime decides to do when he begins to see that other side of things outside of King's Landing). And I'm not opposed to some Bronn and Jaime dialogue if we're going to cut out Darkstar/Arianne and all of that.

It's too early to tell at this point, especially since we know we meet some of the Sand Snakes here soon too.
Posted by Samso
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 9:24 pm to
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I also believe it's going to be the plot device that draws Jon away from the Wall and gets him stabbed by his brothers. Stannis will still march that way I think and we may still get the pink letter (maybe Tormund goes to save Sansa instead of Mance). But I think that's the device it's going to serve.


I hope they stay with Theon rescuing Sansa/Jeyne.

Those Theon chapters from ADWD were incredible.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 9:26 pm to
I can see us having some really good Theon development. Maybe not exactly like it is in the books, but I can see potential for good stuff.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 9:40 pm to
Is Ramsay gonna force him to go down on her though?
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:02 pm to
Where to start?

- I didn't mind them condensing the Night's Watch commander vote so drastically. It was probably the best choice for the medium. But for me at least it highlighted one of the advantages of books as a medium. That episode was so much richer in the books.

- Now if Littlefinger does deliver Sansa to Ramsey as ya'll are speculating, I would consider that a major departure in his driving motivations. Now perhaps if he's trying to use Sansa to become Lord of Winterfell and Ramsey somehow captures Sansa or something like that, I could kinda see.

- Can Danny's storyline get any more boring?

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Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:03 pm to
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- Can Danny's storyline get any more boring?


Yes.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:06 pm to
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I would consider that a major departure in his driving motivations


IMO his driving motivation will always be to either be seated or to be the largest influence on the Iron Throne. I think he wants Sansa like he wanted Catelyn, but he's not above sacrificing her to get to his end game.
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:06 pm to
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I imagined him a little more "swollen" from the gout. That's about it though.



me too, fatter and red faced. But the water garden was just as I imagined it.

I like that Jaqen or what he is turned out to be the old man.

Posted by alajones
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:07 pm to
Everything Dany does in the books and in the show is wrong. Besides being resistant to heat and having a certain level of control over dragons, what the frick good is she. Everything she has done since getting the Unsullied has been a mistake.

Last weeks show was pretty dull but this one beat it. I guess the writers couldn't completely polish Gurm's turds. This season is starting off rough.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:08 pm to
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- Now if Littlefinger does deliver Sansa to Ramsey as ya'll are speculating, I would consider that a major departure in his driving motivations. Now perhaps if he's trying to use Sansa to become Lord of Winterfell and Ramsey somehow captures Sansa or something like that, I could kinda see.



The thing is though Sansa already has that right. Marrying Ramsay does nothing for her or Littlefinger.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:08 pm to
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But the water garden was just as I imagined it.


Some neat side info, Kingdom of Heaven was filmed in the same castle. They redid the area where it was filmed so it doesn't look the same, but it's the same location. And apparently a gorgeous place in it's own right.
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:09 pm to
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I like that Jaqen or what he is turned out to be the old man.
.

He isn't, that's just one of many masks those people wear.
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:09 pm to
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Better than last week but I'm still kind of meh about the start of this season. Not crazy about some of the changes that they have made. I honestly think the show is starting to suffer now that they don't have Martin's material to pull from. The Jaime going to Dorne story is trash IMO.




Oh come on!
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:10 pm to
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thing is though Sansa already has that right. Marrying Ramsay does nothing for her or Littlefinger.


The Iron Throne has declared the Boltons as the Wardens of the North and the Lords of Winterfell. Now the North would obviously united behind a Stark in Sansa if she is revealed as such. But the Iron Throne as it stands does not recognize her as anything other than a traitor who was involved in the death of King Joffrey.

On the flipside of that though is that technically she can't marry Ramsey because she's still technically married to Tyrion (in the eyes of the Iron Throne).

So I'm interested in seeing how they're going to play all of that out.
This post was edited on 4/19/15 at 10:11 pm
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 4/19/15 at 10:16 pm to
right, I'm just not sure what to call him? faceless man?

I liked the episode. I don't mind Bronn and Jamie going to Dorne but I am totally over Brianne. She can just ride off into the sunset now for all I care.

If LF is bringing Sansa to marry Ramsey...
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