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re: Am I less of a Tiger fan if I don't like the Big Cat drill?

Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by BillyBobBlitzkrieg
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:10 pm to
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You come across as one of those people that's so desperate to seem smart that you'll take a joke on a message board as an opportunity to call someone short sighted and act arrogant so that's cool I guess but yea, again, it was just a joke.


Your jokes are neither funny nor original.

I could care less how I came across; I stand behind my words.

Our problem is absolutely qb depth. Miles uses a system that prepares college athletes for the NFL. Thanks to gimmick highschool offenses, many talented players have the talent, but not the intellectual grasp of a more advanced offense.

You said yourself we have recruited continuously 4 star qbs, why would they come here if they didnt trust Cam, Miles or the system?

Mettenberger specifically said when Cam got here, the first thing he did was sit Mett down and ask him what he felt most comfortable running, what were his favorite plays, and they decided together to develop a system around those two pieces.

Nearly every QB that has studied under Cam, or even highschool QBs that just sit down and have a conversation with him rave about his coaching style and philosophies.

At the cost of preparing our athletes for NFL offenses and not becoming a gimmick offense (many teams have high powered offenses, but lose the big games when prep time is allowed, if I have to cite examples then you dont follow CFB), we have to have at least three years prep time before a QB really shines in our system.

There isnt anything wrong with that, again, its been a depth issue. Ryan Perrilloux with lack of backups, Lee/Jefferson both saw the spot light far too early and whatever potential they had was ruined... Zach Lee, Liggins, and that qb from Mississippi whos dad was a Miss State alum and got fat....

Thats the only thing that I think Alabama has done better than us in their last 6 years. Recruit QB in numbers and develop them before playing them
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 2:28 pm to
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Miles uses a system that prepares college athletes for the NFL. Thanks to gimmick highschool offenses, many talented players have the talent, but not the intellectual grasp of a more advanced offense.

Yea, his system prepares players for the NFL and doesn't do absolutely anything to help us win more college football games. We have one of the worst offenses in college football considering our talent level as I already pointed out.
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You said yourself we have recruited continuously 4 star qbs, why would they come here if they didnt trust Cam, Miles or the system?

I never said that we continuously recruit 4* QB's, that would insinuate that we get one or two a year and our QB recruiting and retainment has been absolutely terrible since Cam showed up. We've had Lee, Jefferson, Jennings, Harris, and Mettenberger actually sign and stay and out of the ones that signed out of high school, how many of those turned out halfway worth a shite? They were all pretty solid talents and they all look like 2* players. Pretty sure Gunner Kiel's doing fine though and I don't hear him praising Cam Cameron
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Mettenberger specifically said when Cam got here, the first thing he did was sit Mett down and ask him what he felt most comfortable running, what were his favorite plays, and they decided together to develop a system around those two pieces.


How'd that work out? We had OBJ, Landry, Hill, Mett, and a solid line all at the same time and our offense was pretty average
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Nearly every QB that has studied under Cam, or even highschool QBs that just sit down and have a conversation with him rave about his coaching style and philosophies.

Yea, they talk about his ability to prepare them for the NFL. I've never once heard a current or former player say "Cam will have the best offense in the NCAA in a few years, just give him time". It's always "Cam teaches us so much and we're lucky to be learning a pro style offense in college to prepare us for the next level"
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At the cost of preparing our athletes for NFL offenses and not becoming a gimmick offense (many teams have high powered offenses, but lose the big games when prep time is allowed, if I have to cite examples then you dont follow CFB)

Kinda like Oregon and TCU? Those high powered offenses really shite the bed this bowl season huh? I'd much rather have a "gimmick" offense aka college level offense that players fully understand and execute than a pro style offense that neither Jennings nor Harris will understand this year and have to sit through incomplete pass after incomplete pass while we have one of the most loaded offenses talent-wise in the nation.
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we have to have at least three years prep time before a QB really shines in our system.

Where exactly is that 3 year number coming from? Always one year away from greatness under Miles huh? Because so far, it seems like his offense is too complicated for college QB's to pick up and Jennings pretty much supports that statement considering he looked like he was regressing at the end of last season. That's my entire point. Cam Cameron isn't a bad coordinator by any means, I just agreed that he's great at developing players for the NFL. But he's a terrible fit for a college program because it shouldn't take 4 years for a QB to become serviceable.

Why exactly do you think we have depth issues? Talented high school quarterbacks have absolutely no desire to go to a school where every single quarterback has looked like complete shite with absolutely no improvement anywhere in sight. If kids were crawling out of the woodwork for play for Cam Cameron like you say they are, we wouldn't be in the position we're in right now with 2 true scholarship QB's on the team. I know you think you're giving some groundbreaking analysis by saying that we have depth issues but you obviously don't understand that there's a reason as to why we have them and it lies in the fact that Cam Cameron isn't making the necessary adjustments to be successful at the college level.
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