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re: Alonzo mourning says Jordan would average 50 today.

Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:40 am to
Posted by Buckeye06
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:40 am to
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Those are simply old players who love talking about how awesome their own era was. They aren't unbiased observers.



Joe Dumars ran a front office for 15 years, and Phil Jackson won 10 titles, from the early 90s through the late 2000s. Those 2 aren't just guys reliving the glory days, they have coached/ran offices in the league today.

Hell even Kobe said the game today is soft. He Duncan and Garnett are really 3 of the guys I would believe when it comes to how the game has changed since they have been great in both eras (if we are talking the 90s as opposed to the 80s of course)

If you want to say Zones have slowed scorers down fine, but there are no centers in the NBA even in the same league as those in the 90s

Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:51 am to
MJ would own the bitch arse non-physical play they have today.

Either he would score at will, or just rack up 20 a game from the line.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:52 am to
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Hell even Kobe said the game today is soft. He Duncan and Garnett are really 3 of the guys I would believe when it comes to how the game has changed since they have been great in both eras (if we are talking the 90s as opposed to the 80s of course)
Kobe also said:





Kobe's belief is that the game is softer now. It used to be more physical, but it also used to be more 1 on 1. That meant it used to be more if a star's league. You had to have superior skill to handle the physical play. However, it was a 1-on-1 league. So if you were a gifted 1 on 1 player, a little physicality isn't going to stop you. It's going to stop the inferior players.

Now, the perimeter game is less physical, but because of the zone it makes it harder for great 1 on 1 players to score. Teams have to pass the ball and run pick and roll to break down a defense. And that style of play elevates the effectiveness of shooters and role players.

Kobe wants to go back to the time when 1 on 1 basketball was king. Back then, the game was better for superior scorers (Jordan, Olajuwon, even Kobe). Now, it's more difficult for the stars while elevating the worth of role players.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 8:56 am
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:59 am to
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Joe Dumars ran a front office for 15 years, and Phil Jackson won 10 titles, from the early 90s through the late 2000s. Those 2 aren't just guys reliving the glory days, they have coached/ran offices in the league today.

Hell even Kobe said the game today is soft. He Duncan and Garnett are really 3 of the guys I would believe when it comes to how the game has changed since they have been great in both eras (if we are talking the 90s as opposed to the 80s of course)

If you want to say Zones have slowed scorers down fine, but there are no centers in the NBA even in the same league as those in the 90s
Joe Dumars (player during that time) and Phil (MJs coach) have major incentive to be biased. Regardless, the rules changes that would have helped MJ (handcheck) would have been offset by rule changes that would have hurt him (zone and help defenses).

In all actuality, MJ would probably have done just as well as be did during his time. As a reference, if you take MJs highest scoring season (37.1), and throw out his 10 lowest scoring games (nearly an eighth of the season) of that season, he would have averaged 39.3 points.
Posted by MSUbulldogs03
Member since Apr 2013
2644 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:05 am to
I agree the league is softer today, but I also believe it has gotten that way because of the bigger, better athletes, just the way football has gotten softer due to this.
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