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re: Who is worse: Walter White or Daniel Plainview? (SPOILERS TIL THE END)
Posted on 3/20/15 at 10:01 am to OMLandshark
Posted on 3/20/15 at 10:01 am to OMLandshark
MY POST IS FULL OF SPOILERS:
Untrue. Not saving does not equal murdering (we can agree they are similar in moral depravity, though).
Kind of - but he was generally loyal and protective of Jesse to a fault - and took fairly significant risks to save Jesse's life on several occasions.,
But he didn't kill the kid. Deplorable, but Walt justified a lot of things due to desperation, "need" and exigency. His depravity knew very few limits.
At that point - Walt blamed all of his own internal flaws and failures on Jesse. He blamed Jesse for Hank's death.
Even Walt realized that was unnecessary, albeit too late. Again, he justified everything from his excuse bank.
But you are ignoring the obvious story of redemption at the end... he frees Jesse (at the cost of his own life), sets up his family for life (which is why he started the whole thing in the first place) - it doesn't make up for everything he did, but at least he found his center at the very end of the story.
(ETA: And at the end, Plainview is purely irredeemable - he went in the opposite direction of Walt, at least at the very end.)
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He basically murdered his girlfriend simply because he could.
Untrue. Not saving does not equal murdering (we can agree they are similar in moral depravity, though).
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He blackmails Jesse into doing all of his real dirty work.
Kind of - but he was generally loyal and protective of Jesse to a fault - and took fairly significant risks to save Jesse's life on several occasions.,
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he poisons Jesse's adopted son in order to convince him to kill the man who would only harm him.
But he didn't kill the kid. Deplorable, but Walt justified a lot of things due to desperation, "need" and exigency. His depravity knew very few limits.
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He sells Jesse into slavery, and then simply out of spite he tells Jesse how he basically killed Jane and enjoyed it.
At that point - Walt blamed all of his own internal flaws and failures on Jesse. He blamed Jesse for Hank's death.
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And I haven't even brought up Mike
Even Walt realized that was unnecessary, albeit too late. Again, he justified everything from his excuse bank.
But you are ignoring the obvious story of redemption at the end... he frees Jesse (at the cost of his own life), sets up his family for life (which is why he started the whole thing in the first place) - it doesn't make up for everything he did, but at least he found his center at the very end of the story.
(ETA: And at the end, Plainview is purely irredeemable - he went in the opposite direction of Walt, at least at the very end.)
This post was edited on 3/20/15 at 10:03 am
Posted on 3/20/15 at 10:50 am to Ace Midnight
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But you are ignoring the obvious story of redemption at the end..
The most real redemption was his coming to terms with the real reason he did it. He liked it and admitted it. Coming clean
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