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Are Pels better offensively without AD? *VERDICT IS IN*
Posted on 3/5/15 at 11:12 am
Posted on 3/5/15 at 11:12 am
I love AD, but it seems our offense is more balanced when he is not playing recently. Could it be that we force him the ball too much when he is in. I do understand that he is GOAT.
Just a theory that ran through my head. I don't have data to back it up or given it too much thought. Just wondering what y'all think.
Commence the shitting on me ... GO!
ETA:
After doing some homework ...
Pelicans PPG w/ AD playing 99.63
Pelicans PPG w/o AD playing 98.75
Pelicans PAPG w/ AD playing 98.59
Pelicans PAPG w/o AD playing 101.17
Pelicans Record w/ AD playing 27-22
Pelicans Record w/o AD playing 6-6
VERDICT:
Offense practically the same output whether AD plays or not ... Pelicans defense better with AD on floor. Although our offense doesn't necessarily elevate with AD on the court, we are a better team with him (no one questioned this).
I just wanted to get people discussing something other than "Fire Monty" "Trade Tyreke" and "Asik Sucks" haha
Just a theory that ran through my head. I don't have data to back it up or given it too much thought. Just wondering what y'all think.
Commence the shitting on me ... GO!
ETA:
After doing some homework ...
Pelicans PPG w/ AD playing 99.63
Pelicans PPG w/o AD playing 98.75
Pelicans PAPG w/ AD playing 98.59
Pelicans PAPG w/o AD playing 101.17
Pelicans Record w/ AD playing 27-22
Pelicans Record w/o AD playing 6-6
VERDICT:
Offense practically the same output whether AD plays or not ... Pelicans defense better with AD on floor. Although our offense doesn't necessarily elevate with AD on the court, we are a better team with him (no one questioned this).
I just wanted to get people discussing something other than "Fire Monty" "Trade Tyreke" and "Asik Sucks" haha
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 2:57 pm
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 11:14 am to Downtown Devin Brown
No they just need to adjust to him being back.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 11:20 am to Downtown Devin Brown
Offense per 100 possessions with AD - 112.3 pts
Offense per 100 possessions without AD - 105.2
Offense per 100 possessions without AD - 105.2
Posted on 3/5/15 at 11:32 am to Downtown Devin Brown
Since you asked to be shat on, I downvoted. But, interesting question. I do however strongly think he makes our offense much easier to run and efficient. Teams are forced to double team or bring over help which opens up more opportunities for Reke to drive or our spot up shooters to spread the floor. He also keeps offensive possessions alive (3 Offensive Rbds/game) and is a monster getting doing the floor and finishing on fast breaks.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 11:40 am to Downtown Devin Brown
Posted on 3/5/15 at 12:48 pm to Downtown Devin Brown
The offense is certainly not better with Davis off, but it probably is more balanced. That is mostly out of necessity. Outside of Davis, Evans, and Ajinca (so strange to type that), there is no one healthy right now who has a clear advantage on there defensive mark most of the time. The ball movement was necessary for the team to score. They had to generate open shots. I think some of the ugliness on offense last night was the team trying to figure out how to reincorporate Davis, and ended up deferring to him in the extreme (30 FGAs was a career high I believe).
Some of this is the guys natural inclination to defer to the star and just get out of his way. Some of it is on Monty who was clearly feeding into it. Basically every set was designed to get Davis the ball, which sounds good, but ends up with the rest of the players standing around and not getting into a rhythm. Gordon in particular was atrocious. Gordon has to figure out a way to contribute when he is not the focal point of the offense, but there is also no excuse for Monty not drawing up more than 2 (per BSS recap) plays to get him an open 3. He has been one of the best 3pt shooters in the entire league this year and not utilizing that type of weapon is just not smart on Monty's part. The low number of 3s attempted in the game shows how much the offense changed in this one.
I'm hoping this was mostly just shaking off some rust and and getting Davis back involved, because a team that shares the ball like they had been and utilizes a healthy Davis would be near-impossible to stop.
Some of this is the guys natural inclination to defer to the star and just get out of his way. Some of it is on Monty who was clearly feeding into it. Basically every set was designed to get Davis the ball, which sounds good, but ends up with the rest of the players standing around and not getting into a rhythm. Gordon in particular was atrocious. Gordon has to figure out a way to contribute when he is not the focal point of the offense, but there is also no excuse for Monty not drawing up more than 2 (per BSS recap) plays to get him an open 3. He has been one of the best 3pt shooters in the entire league this year and not utilizing that type of weapon is just not smart on Monty's part. The low number of 3s attempted in the game shows how much the offense changed in this one.
I'm hoping this was mostly just shaking off some rust and and getting Davis back involved, because a team that shares the ball like they had been and utilizes a healthy Davis would be near-impossible to stop.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 1:28 pm to Downtown Devin Brown
Take away a guy who just scored 39 points..and you are asking if an offense is better without him? 
Posted on 3/5/15 at 1:35 pm to Downtown Devin Brown
Not saying you are completely wrong but when you have a star, balance is not always what you are looking for.
It's hard to compare AD with anyone else because I think he is just a different type of player that we have seen before but some nights he is on and you just have to give him the ball.
It's hard to compare AD with anyone else because I think he is just a different type of player that we have seen before but some nights he is on and you just have to give him the ball.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 2:00 pm to Downtown Devin Brown
Pels are better without AD period. I said this yesterday
Posted on 3/5/15 at 10:44 pm to Downtown Devin Brown
quote:
Pelicans PAPG w/ AD playing 98.59
Pelicans PAPG w/o AD playing 101.17
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